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Hmmmm so a hoarding is attached to a shoddy wall, acts like a sail, wall collapses on footpath where pedestrians walk by. Sounds familiar. Speaking from experience, neither WorkSafe nor Council gives a shit about safety outside the property boundaries of a development. We have a woefully inadequate Building Site Management Code of Practice, compounded by a general reluctance to enforce relevant Local Law, even for repeated breaches. Whenever somebody from the building industry talks about reducing “red tape” and “compliance costs”, this is the pointy end—a reduction in public safety to the point that deaths are acceptable.
As we know, Council tolerates developers ripping up footpaths for years without Asset Consent Permits, ignores unauthorised partial road closures and failure to prepare Traffic Management Plans, closes their eyes to pedestrians being forced onto roadways to circumnavigate development sites, encourages the use of naturestrips and footpaths for the storage of building materials, and many many more blatant abuses of Local Law and relevant legislation. Worse still, when people in Eskdale Rd area complained to Council, their legitimate concerns were treated dismissively and the complainants regarded with disdain.
Anon above thinks the appropriate response is to report a matter promptly to Council staff. It is not possible to do so outside of Service Desk hours and complaints of this nature are strongly discouraged.
It would also be refreshing if this council were to make public:
1. How many fines have been issued to developers in the past year re safety issues
2. How many prosecutions re safety issues has council undertaken in the past 12 months?
3. How many times is each individual building site ‘inspected’ especially since some sites can be under ‘development’ for a year or so?
4. How many complaints have come in from residents and how many forms of ‘action’ has council taken as a result?
Of course such facts and figures are NOT INCLUDED in the laughable ‘Best Value reports’!
There’s another issue with development sites – it seems construction workers are given immunity from parking retrictions. They can use nature strips, park as close to a corner as possible and park facing on coming traffic – all day every day of the build and no parking officer appears when it is reported.
All construction site workers seem to have the rite to close off footpaths too as they so wish with their swing gates, smash footpaths and generally take over a large area outside the boundaries of the site. OUR FOOTPATH and the council turns a bllind eye… I’ve even seen building materials being delivered on fork lifts by way of a journey along footpaths rather than at crossovers. Why should rate payers suffer at the expense of contractors completing works at the expense of our amenity?? Builders etc.are behaving in our suburb as though they are working in a new development rather than an area where we all need to carry out our day’s work too. One requires different shoes to walk on some of our footpaths if we work in a city office as after walking on our footpaths it is as though we have walked through mud or if living dangerously one has to take to the centre of the road often.
Of course he does – and I agree with him the rules are adequate. Trouble is Hyams and Councillors don’t ask the following question – ie. are the rules enforced? Not much point having rules if they are not enforced.
Site inspections are not carried out on a regular basis and even when residents lodge a complaint it is rarely enforced. About the only thing that happens is the residents name gets on the serial pest list (and it’s a very long list!!!)
It seems once a permit is granted Council loses all interest until it’s time to collect the ïmproved value rates.
They can’t even enforce gates being open at the racecourse. Lazy and incompetent is my summary. They’ve got computers so should know every single building going on. It would take one person maybe two days to go around and check that everything is okay. That could happen every couple of months. Fine a few and they’ll pull their heads in. They just don’t care. All too hard is the answer. Maybe when someone’s killed Newton will do the right thing.
April 15, 2013 at 10:47 AM
Betya none of these buggers were fined or prosecuted
April 15, 2013 at 10:58 AM
Smart Aleck the correct response should be to enquire whether this information was immediately reported to Council.Then you could be a S A.
April 15, 2013 at 2:20 PM
Hmmmm so a hoarding is attached to a shoddy wall, acts like a sail, wall collapses on footpath where pedestrians walk by. Sounds familiar. Speaking from experience, neither WorkSafe nor Council gives a shit about safety outside the property boundaries of a development. We have a woefully inadequate Building Site Management Code of Practice, compounded by a general reluctance to enforce relevant Local Law, even for repeated breaches. Whenever somebody from the building industry talks about reducing “red tape” and “compliance costs”, this is the pointy end—a reduction in public safety to the point that deaths are acceptable.
As we know, Council tolerates developers ripping up footpaths for years without Asset Consent Permits, ignores unauthorised partial road closures and failure to prepare Traffic Management Plans, closes their eyes to pedestrians being forced onto roadways to circumnavigate development sites, encourages the use of naturestrips and footpaths for the storage of building materials, and many many more blatant abuses of Local Law and relevant legislation. Worse still, when people in Eskdale Rd area complained to Council, their legitimate concerns were treated dismissively and the complainants regarded with disdain.
Anon above thinks the appropriate response is to report a matter promptly to Council staff. It is not possible to do so outside of Service Desk hours and complaints of this nature are strongly discouraged.
April 15, 2013 at 3:34 PM
Following the tragic deaths of 3 people in Carlton recently, public safety must be the highest priority for all councils. For those interested in following this issue check out this blog posting – http://melbournecitycouncil.blogspot.com.au/2013/04/when-is-hoarding-not-hoarding.html
It would also be refreshing if this council were to make public:
1. How many fines have been issued to developers in the past year re safety issues
2. How many prosecutions re safety issues has council undertaken in the past 12 months?
3. How many times is each individual building site ‘inspected’ especially since some sites can be under ‘development’ for a year or so?
4. How many complaints have come in from residents and how many forms of ‘action’ has council taken as a result?
Of course such facts and figures are NOT INCLUDED in the laughable ‘Best Value reports’!
April 16, 2013 at 6:15 AM
There’s another issue with development sites – it seems construction workers are given immunity from parking retrictions. They can use nature strips, park as close to a corner as possible and park facing on coming traffic – all day every day of the build and no parking officer appears when it is reported.
April 16, 2013 at 10:13 AM
All construction site workers seem to have the rite to close off footpaths too as they so wish with their swing gates, smash footpaths and generally take over a large area outside the boundaries of the site. OUR FOOTPATH and the council turns a bllind eye… I’ve even seen building materials being delivered on fork lifts by way of a journey along footpaths rather than at crossovers. Why should rate payers suffer at the expense of contractors completing works at the expense of our amenity?? Builders etc.are behaving in our suburb as though they are working in a new development rather than an area where we all need to carry out our day’s work too. One requires different shoes to walk on some of our footpaths if we work in a city office as after walking on our footpaths it is as though we have walked through mud or if living dangerously one has to take to the centre of the road often.
April 16, 2013 at 11:26 AM
Mayor Hyams, on behalf of Council, considers current processes to be adequate—despite all the failures listed here.
April 16, 2013 at 12:14 PM
Of course he does – and I agree with him the rules are adequate. Trouble is Hyams and Councillors don’t ask the following question – ie. are the rules enforced? Not much point having rules if they are not enforced.
Site inspections are not carried out on a regular basis and even when residents lodge a complaint it is rarely enforced. About the only thing that happens is the residents name gets on the serial pest list (and it’s a very long list!!!)
It seems once a permit is granted Council loses all interest until it’s time to collect the ïmproved value rates.
April 16, 2013 at 12:45 PM
They can’t even enforce gates being open at the racecourse. Lazy and incompetent is my summary. They’ve got computers so should know every single building going on. It would take one person maybe two days to go around and check that everything is okay. That could happen every couple of months. Fine a few and they’ll pull their heads in. They just don’t care. All too hard is the answer. Maybe when someone’s killed Newton will do the right thing.