The current ‘Community Plan Forums’ have consistently highlighted serious resident dissatisfaction with Council’s overall planning, traffic management and consultation practices. ‘Listening’ to the community is only part of Council’s task. Their job now is to implement radical change and to connect the dots between all three major issues.
It is a fallacy to see the above and other ‘problems’ such as flooding, parking, and ‘neighbourhood character’ as separate components or entirely State, Federal or Utility responsibility. There is much council can do via its planning scheme. All these problems are connected and solutions need to recognise this and provide answers that are not piece meal, ad hoc, and ineffectual. Amendments (such as C87) remain limited in scope and vision and in no way provide a remedy for the ills which currently beset the entire municipality. Yet, this has been council’s approach for the past decade – a little reactive and superficial tinkering here and there instead of a complete overhaul of its current housing strategy and activity centres policy.
Nowhere is this made more obvious that in the failed C49 Amendment where an independent Panel rejected Council’s meagre attempts at ‘control’ of the environment because the amendment lacked ‘strategic justification’. In other words, no grand integrated vision, and the lack of necessary homework. This is still true today. Many of the current policies that form the basis of the current Planning Scheme are not only outdated, but archaic. Housing dates back to 1996; open space to the same era; activity centres to 1999. This is not the way to plan for a community. Nor is the Glen Eira approach of continually tinkering with the edges such as the so called ‘transition zone’ amendment of last year that laughably is not a ‘zone’ at all. Now we have the C87 – again, an amendment that basically attempts to look after only 1000 or so properties.
We have in the past compared Glen Eira’s track record in planning with other councils – especially in relation to structure plans, height limits, parking precinct plans, public realm, etc. Glen Eira has none of these! Worse, residents have never been provided with any sound justification for the failure to include any of the above in the Planning Scheme.
We are not arguing that structure plans are a universal panacea that will solve all problems of overdevelopment. What we are arguing is that by refusing to go down this path, this administration and its councillors are not fulfilling their mandate to represent constituents and to ensure that development is planned, cohesive and embraces the principles of social, environmental and economic benefit to the community. We have to again ask why each of the following councils sees fit to have structure plans and either interim or permanent height controls, and why Glen Eira is again, and again, the odd man out? The list of these councils, and we’re sure there are plenty more, includes:
- Bayside
- Boroondara
- Casey
- Darebin
- Frankston
- Geelong
- Hobson’s Bay
- Hume
- Kingston
- Manningham
- Moonee Valley
- Port Phillip
- Stonnington
- Yarra City
Residents should start asking their councillors why this is so and demanding full and comprehensive answers.
February 20, 2012 at 10:41 AM
Glen Eira doesn’t have structure plans because this would limit development and we can’t have that! We don’t even have a commercial centres policy anymore when you’d think that should be central to any major activity centre framework. All we have are plenty of motherhood statements that boil down to nothing. You’ve got to start thinking that planning requires commitment and expertise and looking out for residents. These three pre-requisites are missing in Glen Eira.
February 20, 2012 at 11:34 AM
Councillors wouldn’t have a clue about planning. The listen to the nonsense from Akehurst and Newton and swallow it hook line and sinker. All they care about is that 3, 4 or 5 storey monsters aren’t built next door to them. Of if it happens to be anywhere near Newton’s place then instead of 14 storeys you vote in 7. How about halving 10 storeys to 5 instead of 8? Same principle ain’t it?
February 20, 2012 at 12:19 PM
There is one and only one answer for Glen Eira.
Vote out the conservative councillors Lipshutz, Hyam, Essokoff , Tang, and that complete waste of time and effort Lobo.
Vote in Councillors that will replace Newton and Burke and put a broom though many of the non preforming other senior officer at the town hall.
Do this and the doors will open
February 20, 2012 at 12:39 PM
It’s going to be fascinating to watch these “conservative” councillors try and weasel their way out of this planning dilemma. Lipshutz has always claimed that he makes the “hard decisions” for the good of the entire community. Now the community has spoken. They’ve had enough of lousy, rotten planning and a council that is gung ho in favour of rampant and unprincipled development. Let’s hear the arguments that Lipshutz will now put up. He will blame VCAT and the State government. The sticking point though is that I don’t want councillors who use their own judgements as the basis for their votes. If they are “representative” of the community then they’d better damn well start acting like this. We’ve had examples where personal views by Lipshutz as a heritage expert have over-ridden real experts. That’s not what he is there for. I also don’t think that this planning department has even one “expert”. If they did, or if their agendas were different, we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
If the vast majority of residents are saying the planning scheme and all it controls is just not good enough and not working then changes have to happen. If they don’t then the blame goes to Lipshutz, Esakoff, Hyams, Tang and the rest who have just gone along with Newton and Akehurst.
February 20, 2012 at 4:05 PM
Colin, Lipshutz does not give a rats about what you or I think, he is there to support his mob and brown nose to the CEO. “Independent” that how low the man is stooping, and he is not alone up there. The CEO uses the Community Plan to spot the danger coming from the residents, and torpedo them before they get any momentum. He was at the community meeting spying to see who said what. (MODERATORS: Sentence deleted)
February 20, 2012 at 4:55 PM
Media Release from the Minister for Planning –
Record planning permit activity in Victoria
Friday, 17 February 2012
From the Minister for Planning
Planning and development activity continues to boost Victoria’s economy with a record number of permit decisions valued at $23.2 billion in 2010-11, representing an increase of 29.4 per cent on the previous year.
In releasing the Planning Permit Activity Report, Planning Minister Matthew Guy said the increase in planning activity reflects continued confidence in Victoria’s economy.
“The report shows a general increase in most planning activity categories with the number of permit applications increasing by 2.5 per cent together with a substantial increase in potential investment,” Mr Guy said.
“Given the challenging economic environment globally and at home it is important that we have an efficient and responsive planning and development sector.
“The Planning Permit Activity in Victoria 20010/11 report provides a formal point-in-time status of permit activity in Victoria,” Mr Guy said.
Highlights include:
Total applications lodged 57,280 up 2.5%
Estimated cost of works $23.2 billion up 29.4%
Applications where public notice required 41% up 9.8%
Applications where further information requested 40% up 9.9%
Applications referred to a referral authority 32% up 9.2%
Median days for decision (statutory period is 60 days) 76 up 4.1%
“The data is used in important reviews undertaken by government, including the Planning and Environment Act review, housing analysis and strategic planning programs and is a major resource for councils and the Municipal Association of Victoria.
Since 2003, the Planning Permit Activity Report has been produced by a partnership between the Municipal Association of Victoria and the Department of Planning and Community Development from data electronically submitted each month by all Victorian local councils.
The Planning Permit Activity Report 2010-11 is available at http://www.dpcd.vic.gov.au/planning/planning-applications
PLEASE NOTE: Statistics for individual local government regions are available – but not for ordinary residents/citizens. You are eligible to apply only if you’re a ‘department’ or a Council Officer!
February 20, 2012 at 6:19 PM
Helps to get your way on planning matters with Guy if you’re connected to the Liberals, particularly if you’re a former minister. 😉
Let me once again reiterate that most, if not all sitting councillors, will be returned at the next poll because the overwhelming majority of residents are either politically obtuse or couldn’t care less. Councillors know that.
What hope is there to inform when the local paper is compliant when it comes to council matters. A former journalist once told me that they can’t be too critical of council because the rely heavily on them for stories. That paper has no journalistic credibility.
February 20, 2012 at 8:45 PM
Apathy might have been the hallmark of Glen Eira participation in the past. I think that things are definitely changing now judging by the turnout at the various community forums. Getting 70 or 80 people to show up each time says plenty about how pissed off people are becoming especially with planning, traffic and how little their views have been taken into account. If councillors proceed to carry out Newton’s agenda then they’re mugs and the electorate will affirm this soon enough.
February 20, 2012 at 9:45 PM
The current councillors will be returned because most people see no reason to change them. The former minister did not get his way in the end. Maybe when the IBAC gets going we may find who the real villians are in and around Melbourne. There are a lot of disappointed people that have tendered for Gov. jobs over the past 10 years. You quickly forget how Maddern as planning minister tried to run a scam consultation. We never hear about the ones they got away with. Of course when the Southern Cross Station contract was stuffed up the Labor Gov. ensured that all information relevant to the deal is locked up for 50 years. Greatest cover up ever known in this State. Good to have mates in power. Guy got away with nothing. The Glen Eira Council is a major advertiser with the Leader. Nothing to do with getting stories. Why would a newpaper write stuff that annoys one of their regular customers?
February 21, 2012 at 4:22 PM
B. Zarsoff (interesting username 🙄 ) wrote:Why would a newspaper write stuff that annoys one of their regular customers?
Because the media is supposed to work in the public interest; exposing fraud and corruption; fighting secrecy; making those in power accountable et al. Its task is to inform, educate, entertain and enlighten its readers. To accurately present news and fairly present views. Absolutely not to kow-tow to vested interests including advertisers. Sheesh!
You are apparently happy to be fed pointless fluff, filtered information and generally kept in the dark and fed BS. That could be the only explanation for your support of the pseudo newspaper that circulates in our area. Most of us can see how offensive and dangerous your silly comment is. Pity you can’t too.
February 22, 2012 at 2:30 PM
I live in a real world nor one that goes on inside my head. Newspapers print news to take up the space between the adverisment. They are a business not a social tool. Since when is the media supposed to be all the things you want it to be? Look closely at The Age as it enters it dying stages. It is writing to its readership to stall the inevitable of becoming an internet paper. They are carefully ensuring that they do not annoy their “progressive readers” And yes. I am happy but I do not take the Leader seriously. Neither should you.
February 22, 2012 at 4:49 PM
Front page of today’s Moorabbin Leader says it all – a story about someones junk in the back yard. Not one single word about the forums and what people are saying. Page 3 we get the “good news” stuff about reducing car speeds in centre road. There’s nothing in there that is even mildly questioning of council much less critical. I agree that the leader is generally lousy but at least other leader newspapers in other suburbs do include major stories that don’t put their councils in a good light. With the caulfield and moorabbin ones you have to get out your looking glass and go hunting for real news and analysis. Makes you wonder why doesn’t it.
February 20, 2012 at 8:24 PM
The CEO is a master of ineffectual solutions, purposely engineered that way to fail, so in the end he gets what he wants. You would think he would learn from his plentiful mistakes, but he doesn’t, of course his Liberal councillor mates are happy with that, hence no criticism from the people representatives. The tree register has failed even before it was implemented.
Next election sweep them out of office and replace them people who can and will represent the residents
February 20, 2012 at 11:02 PM
I went along to tonight’s community forum in Bentleigh to hear what people thought and how this was going to be run. There were a couple of danger signs that people need to watch out for. Practically all of the tables had planning and development as an issue. When the facilitator then asked people for solutions in the second half of the meeting his first issue was trees – even though he did say this wasn’t in any order. I’m just suspicious that in the end this will be buried under the trivial stuff like footpaths and so on.
The other danger sign is producing a shopping list of issues so people get distracted and don’t recognise that many of these issues are really talking about the same thing. I mean you can’t separate traffic from development, but this is what happened at my table tonight. Whether this is deliberate and we’ll get back some useless excuse that nothing can be done, the future will tell. But I think people need to be on the watchout for this kind of ploy.
There were also assurances that everything people said would be collated and reported back. On past history of this council I doubt this very much. I hope I’m wrong, but using the Delphi technique means that not everyone gets to hear or read what everyone said. How do I know what’s left out in the final report if I haven’t heard it or read it? I have to take them on their word and I’m not that trusting of this council and its operatchniks.
February 21, 2012 at 11:50 AM
Friend told me that the biggest laugh last night was when Hyams did his little spiel and said that council had listened to the community when they said they wanted facilities for youth. We built them gesac he said and that it will soon be open. Audience sniggered, laughed at the “soon be open” bit. A for trying, and F for straight talking.
February 21, 2012 at 12:59 PM
What a strange little fellow that Newton bloke is. Made an appearance at the forum, stood to one side speaking only to his underlings and then left early. Okay, he showed up – whoopee do! Not one word though to residents. How about sitting down at the tables and listening to what people think and feel and want done? How about just simply doing your job and connecting with residents? Nah, figure that’s beneath him!
February 21, 2012 at 2:18 PM
I am glad Newtons behaviour was recognised by someone else at the meeting, he seems to have no understanding of community and what it take to get down and communicate with the residents. I would not take it personally, he is just not up to the job, totally the wrong personality to be running a city council. The silly smirks that came across his dial when residents said something he thought was off-beat was the only expression he showed all night, other than appearing to be absolutely bored stiff by the whole process
The example he personally demonstrates may go a long way to explain Glen Eira anti community stance.
My recommendation is to vote the conservative councillors that keep him there OUT at Octobers elections. The new councillors will change the CEO, which is about the only real power the councillors have.
After all we the ratepayers pay his wage and I think his behaviour and his attitude fall far below what is expected of a person in his position.
February 21, 2012 at 3:58 PM
To all those Anonymous folks! Why don’t you stand for election and be the change factor. Preaching about inefficiencies of present councillors and
hiding behind your proper name, does not say much of you. If you have time to write on this forum you surely have time to serve the community and make the changes you want. By the looks of it, it clearly appears you guys have lots of time to waste!!!!!!
February 21, 2012 at 6:01 PM
So spending five minutes here and there posting comments here equates to the enormous time and resources needed to stand for election. It’s residents like you who post ill informed comments that have inflicted on us the likes of Tang, Hyams, Esakoff, Forge, Lipshutz..
February 23, 2012 at 5:56 PM
I hope for your sake your parents did not name you ‘Puffing Billy’, or are you also an “anonymous” contributor “hiding behind your proper name”.
February 21, 2012 at 5:30 PM
Poofing Billy, How do know we are not standing, maybe we do give time to other pursuits of public benefit, and maybe we do have time to waste scrawling on this and other screens What do you reckon we should be around your home weeded your garden and painting your picket fence as a community feel good, just to please you.
February 21, 2012 at 5:56 PM
The timing of the Community Plan consultation forums is a bit odd, not that its ever a bad idea to engage in genuine consultation with the community. The erroneously-named “Community Plan” is after all the statutory Council Plan required by LGA s125, which must be prepared “within the period of 6 months after each general election or by the next 30 June, whichever is later.”
A couple of weaknesses of the current Council Plan is the emphasis on self-promotion and the overuse of soft fluffy, almost meaningless, strategies. Much of it is only weakly or tenously linked to the Objectives of Councils. The “strategic indicators for monitoring the achievement of the objectives” are pretty weak too. So instead we get Objectives such as “To minimise traffic congestion and to advocate to State Government for improved public transport services” and corresponding indicators of “State Government lobbied” and “Decision obtained from State Government on improving rail/road intersections”. In the case of Development and Planning, the indicators are completely divorced from the Objective. Little wonder we have no Structure Plans worthy of the name.
February 21, 2012 at 7:31 PM
Andrew Newton sttod as though he was a talking decoration on the wall at the Ormond noght and notonly did he fail to join his rate payer residents he was constantly talking to another public servent so neither of them was able to experience with their own eyues and ears exactly how depressed the residents actually are about matters such as flooded houses which shpould never ever occur in our suburbs. Shame should we go to his office shouting or waht????/
February 21, 2012 at 8:40 PM
You could could go to the CEO’s office shouting, but my guess is it will do you no good.
I suggest you vote for someone other than the same old worn-out conservatives even if it means breaking a life long tradition of voting Liberal or Labor, they cannot deliver as they a are hog-tied by there masters, and are bereft of ideas to move us ahead
It’s time for a change
February 21, 2012 at 10:34 PM
Anonymous 13 who probably is the same as Anonymous 3. Grow up and learn what it means to contribute to your local community. You have no idea what work and number of hours and sacrifices that go in public office. Get your name out there on the ballot paper instead of poofing! You must be worn out of your intelligence; perhaps lack of education and upbringing has put you in the category of those small margin people who have racial prejudices i.e. perhaps you are a descendent of British ancestry.
February 22, 2012 at 12:32 AM
You have no idea of just how great the sacrifices, are yeah yeah yeah, sounds like Concerned Resident aka hero of the toy shop dolls, who gave his best years of his life to public sacrifice and service.
I thought the Puffing Billy went poof poof poof, all my childhood books said steam engines made that sound, so just what is with your homophobic projection here, please explain. The local blog shrinks will be all to willing to give you some advice to get you through the day on that one mate.
Well spotted, young man, we are very British here, all Tea & Silver in the afternoons, the Welsh Corgis on the lawn, the heavenly smell of freshly ironed pinstripes. Little Winston and Elizabeth attending the best schools. We like it very much. You know all so civilised, and memorable really. Its just a damn shame we cannot smoke on train any more.
Have you a safe alternative other that British you would like to suggest to us, maybe something Indian, we tried that for a while, nice clubs and cheap servants out of memory, my wife quite liked mind you, but so very hot. Don’t be shy, are you hinting at something more exotic from the Middle East by chance?
I am so awfully interest, please do tell!
February 22, 2012 at 5:31 PM
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February 22, 2012 at 6:16 PM
If you can’t get to the meetings, you can register and post online at the Have Your Say forums – http://haveyoursaygleneira.com.au/ – until 29 February.
February 22, 2012 at 9:27 PM
Anon18 what are you on about.You obviously have a problem.
February 22, 2012 at 10:02 PM
Anon 18 has lost his/her bearings.
February 23, 2012 at 2:00 AM
No wonder people lose comprehension of what is occurring. We are simply being undermined by our public servants… keeping us poor while they go off on $200,000.00 AND $350,000.00 JOBS AT CITY HALL WITH ENSURED CAR PARKING (FOR FREE) WHILE WE GREENLY CRAM ONTO EXPENSIVE PUBLIC TRANSPORT OR DRIVE TO WORKI AND PAY PROHIBITIVE PARKING FEES. And for all this ratepayers are treated as enemies of our servants.
February 23, 2012 at 12:25 PM
Number 18 – What is this crap about British, Tea and Silver. If you consider yourself British why stay in Australia and give us all a bad name?
February 23, 2012 at 12:28 PM
MODERATORS: this ‘conversation’ appears to be degenerating rapidly. We will not put up any more comments that are not directly relevant to the post.
February 23, 2012 at 1:50 PM
Somebody appears to be telling porkies. The community has now been told that it is a statutory requirement for Council to adopt its Community Plan by 30 June *2012*. This matters because we don’t know the outcome of Council elections, or have resolution for the outstanding State Government non-decisions that impact our community (particularly around level-crossings), or have the latest Census data upon which to make informed decisions. Structure Plans aren’t just about heights but a whole range of matters that affect the health, success and future of communities and it remains a concern that Council has shown no interest.