The third ‘whiff of revolution’ concerns a request for a report originally moved by Lobo and Pilling concerning the flying of the aboriginal flag atop the council building. Paul Burke’s name is attached to the report. The Lobo motion in part, asked for: “What would be the cost for an additional pole and how do we go about achieving this”. Like so many other officer reports, this part was totally ignored and the stock answer of ‘no’ provided.
It was therefore somewhat surprising that the following occurred at Tuesday night’s council meeting.
LOBO: wanted the item ‘deferred’ until the next council meeting and that ‘further information be provided in relation to costs and options’. Pilling seconded.
Lobo thanked officers but also said that the report ‘outlines mainly the policies’ of council ‘but as I earlier requested it would be great to see’ whether there could be a second pole and its cost.
PILLING: said it was a ‘fair and reasonable ask for more information in line with the original motion’ about costs.
Motion was put and accepted unanimously.
COMMENT
What the catalyst was for this sudden flexing of muscles by Lobo and the other councillors we can only guess at. The item itself is arguably innocuous. But it does represent a definite chastisement of Burke and his colleagues. The great pity, as we have previously remarked, is that this does not happen often enough in council. Shoddy reports that lack detail, do not answer the requests, and basically tell councillors ‘no it can’t be done’ are accepted without blinking. Perhaps in this case political mileage for the upcoming election may have been a factor? Or again, given that a public question had been asked, the issue was up front and in the public domain. We’ve copied the question and the response below.
““Is Council satisfied that having requested a report by a resolution of Council and having specifically asked that a cost be provided for an additional flagpole at this building, that not only were no costs provided in Item 9.7, but that Officers are recommending not to erect a second pole at Glen Eira’s Town Hall? Furthermore is the Glen Eira Council satisfied that when requested by government offices, such as the Department of Premier and Cabinet-Victoria, to fly the Aboriginal & Torres Strait Islanders flag, (for days such as National Sorry Day May 26th and National Reconciliation week 27th May to 3rd June), Council is only able to do so by fixing such flags below a portico? If flying Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander flags is seen “by some members of the community as inappropriate or divisive”, they can be directed to the Premiers Office who has sought Council’s assistance. And finally does this Council consider it is time to review its Policy 1.7 “Australian National Flag” and consider perhaps the erection of a second and third pole to be located at an appropriate site on the ground? This will enable Council to fly the National Flag on number one pole atop the clock in addition to occasionally flying the Aboriginal Flag and Torres Strait Islander Flag or the State of Victoria Flag at grade.”
The Mayor read Council’s response. He said: “This item was listed on tonight’s Council Agenda as Item 9.7 so it has not been possible to provide a response prior to the debate. However, you will be able to read Council’s resolution on this matter in the Minutes of the Council Meeting which will be available on Council’s website later this week and which show that this item was deferred and more information was requested. I would, however, point out by way of clarification that the report does not say that flying Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander is ‘seen by some members of the community as inappropriate or divisive’. It states that flying those flags may lead to requests from members of the community for Council to fly flags that would be seen in this way.”
July 5, 2012 at 9:04 AM
Well, what do you know! Hyams finally admitting that the “debates” in council are all pre-arranged and decisions made as to how the voting will go. The gallery is the witness to nothing more than a performance. If it wasn’t then he couldn’t say “which show that this item was deferred and more information was requested”. Good to know that decisions aren’t made in assemblies or pull the other leg will you!
July 5, 2012 at 11:31 AM
We are one nation, not two. Easy to put two flags on the same pol for a week. Lobo is looking for a point of difference in an attempt to be re-elected. He will need to dramatically increase his votes to get reach a quota. He probably hasn’t prepared his press release. This is the reason for deferring.
Pleased I don’t pay rates in Yarra where the Greens are spending $190,000 on contraceptives for possums.
July 5, 2012 at 12:53 PM
I’d dob in to get rid of my tribe of possums. They’ve cost me over 1500 in the last 4 years to get rid of them and to salvage the wiring they chewed through.
July 5, 2012 at 4:30 PM
We end up with anymore Greens on the Glen Eira Council and this is the sort of stuff we will be faced with in our parks. $190,000. That is alot of rate money.
July 5, 2012 at 8:05 PM
Call me off my tree … but at least a contrraceptive device for possums presents an opportunity for humour or wild imagination. The same amount of money spent on legal fees to silence a Cr. only provides an opportunity for dismay
July 5, 2012 at 11:51 PM
Possums are nothing more than tree rats. The sooner we identify them as such and an effective eradication program is introduced the better.
On the ‘Whiff’ issues, beware of elected officials who play follow-the- leader until an election is in the offing.
July 5, 2012 at 4:15 PM
Why don’t they stop calling them “Assemblies” and start calling them “rehearsals”.
Why does the wording of the act allow decisions to be made behind closed doors and them have them ratified in the formal Council Meeting where the public are only allowed to hear an edited version of the arguments for and against. This Council takes full advantage of this poor wording and it is not in the interests of the residents.
July 5, 2012 at 9:48 PM
The decisions may not be in your interest Kev, but you are guessing when you say that they are not in the interests of the residents. All Councils have briefings or assemblies as as they are now called. This has been going on for over 100 years. That is how Local Gov works. If you were a Councillor I suspect you would tow the line very nicely.
July 6, 2012 at 7:32 AM
Anon, I fear you miss my point, I have not problems with Assemblies per say and am aware of their workings – they are supposed to be a opportunity for dicussion between Councillors and the Admin so that Councillors briefed on the activities of the Administration and are up to date on “hot” issues.
Unfortunately Glen Eira doesn’t use them this way – they are rehearsals in which it is decided who will speak and what they will say and how the vote will go. This Council has also has a no surprises policy – very little can be raised in open Council that has not been discussed behind the closed doors.
So tell me Anon, how can this be in the residents (all, not just mine) interests and how does this match up with open, transparent and accountable governance.
July 5, 2012 at 6:47 PM
Anon 5 – What part have you played in the recognition of Aboriginies? No one had the courage to point this out other than Cr. Lobo. Instead of supporting such a venture, you seem to criticise. Lobo is well regarded and trusted by the community. He is not like Magee who will promise the world and deliver nothing.
July 6, 2012 at 7:15 AM
If you know him ask him why he didn’t turn up at the mayoral vote. If re-working an old idea is the way that you define courage then I along with many others would wonder how you are thinking. The idea of raising the Aboriginal flag has been put forward a few times. In fact it may have been raised by former councillor Nic Staikos. It is seen as an easy way of getting ones name in the paper. I think it is disgusting to use indigeous people as a quick political fix. Simply a stunt.
July 5, 2012 at 7:05 PM
Anon 2 – Why should it be Lobo to initiate the issue of Aboriginal flag? Why not you and others born in Australia having so much time on hand to write on this blog made the effort to point this out in the press. Does this show that you and others care a hoot for the land you use of aborigines? Do you show signs of unfairness to this much neglected members of our society?
July 5, 2012 at 10:08 PM
I bought my land as I suspect Cr. Lobo has as well. I didn’t see the Aboriginal flag flying in the settlement on the ABC when they told the shocking stories of what happen to children in some of their communities. Flying a flag will not address any equity issues. It is tokenism at best. If you have the answers I suggest you write them down and mail it to the Government. The issue of raising the Aboriginal flag has been raised in the Council many times over the years. Cr. Lobo is trying to get himself re-elected. It is a stunt. Ask him why he didn’t turn up to support his mate for the mayoral vote. That answer will define his character more than trying to gain favour from indigenous Australians. Shame.
July 6, 2012 at 1:33 PM
Anon – You are full of BS and your answers have no relevance. BTW, which mate was Cr.Lobo to support the re-election?
July 6, 2012 at 4:54 PM
Anon – The shame must be on you for the stolen generation. Have you seen your face lately in the mirror?
July 6, 2012 at 8:08 PM
Many of the so called stolen generation were the lucky ones. You seem to think if someone disagrees with your point of view they are not entltled to an opinion. If a non indigeonous family were subjecting their children to the sexual depravity the occurrs in some remote communities DHS would have the kids removed very quickly. Ask any social worker. Lobo is looking for a headline. Has he still got the councillor number plates?
July 7, 2012 at 8:51 PM
Anon – You surely are 100% racist. Why don’t you call Lobo if you need answers?
July 7, 2012 at 8:58 PM
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