Item 9.7 of the current agenda features a four page report on the GESAC basketball allocations. Two things need to be highlighted:
- The 90 hour court allocation agreement given to the Warriors has NOT BEEN FULFILLED despite what Burke would like us to believe
- We have serious doubts as to whether the courts (and GESAC) are really paying for themselves
First, a little history to place things in context. The Warriors were finally awarded the EOI after much dilly-dallying in December 2011 and on Burke’s decision. GESAC did not open until May 2012. That gave the Warriors at least 5 months to get their act into full operation via a concerted recruitment drive – which they did according to their website and Facebook pages of this period. But, even as early as June 2011 the Warriors were trumpeting their success in gaining GESAC and their website featured the call for recruits even back then. That is over a year ago! Recruitment is still ongoing.
There are many statements within the Burke report that we take issue with. We will go through these sequentially.
- We’re supposed to believe this statement: “GESAC opened at short notice. The builder advised of Practical Completion on 3 May 2012 and GESAC opened to the public on 7 May 2012.” GESAC did not open at short notice. The progress was continually monitored according to media releases and Pool Steering Committee reports. More importantly, the courts themselves were part of a separate contract, contingent on additional government funding. Furthermore, the courts were completed by December 2011, yet allowed to stand idle for 5 months waiting for the entire complex to open. No satisfactory reason has been provided as to why the courts were not opened earlier since they boast entirely separate access and their own facilities. The basketball season also started in December, so it would have made perfectly good sense to open the facility at this time. We suspect that the reason this did not happen was simply because the Oakleigh Warriors did not at that time have sufficient teams even though they had been recruiting for over half a year as we’ve stated above.
- Burke also asserts: “GESAC opened mid-season.” – ie in May. Hardly MID SEASON! The basketball winter season was 4 weeks old. Most Associations and the poor old Warriors were unable to get their full competition off and running EVEN though one of the stated reasons they won the EOI was because of their superior marketing of the game! In fact, in the months leading up to the opening they were marketing a competition that would be held in other stadiums until GESAC was completed….that competition never happened!
- Another statement – “The agreements with sports recognised that full utilisation would arise from the start of the Season after GESAC opened”. Well, we are now in November and GESAC has been open for 6 months YET THE WARRIORS HAVE STILL NOT FULFILLED THEIR HOURLY ALLOCATION! Burke tries desperately to befuddle the picture with his irrelevant and bogus figures. We remind readers that the Warriors hired 90 hours of court time in the Friday to Sunday timeslot. They were awarded the EOI on the promise of paying over $4,000+ per week for these 90 hours. Now we’re told that the court time utilised by the Warriors in this timeslot only tallies 79 hours. That’s 11 hours less than the contract stipulated and just under $500 per week that GESAC and ratepayers are possibly losing out on. Please note that these figures are also the latest figures. What was going on in June, July, and August for example? How many court hours were standing idle during this time and how much revenue was lost? In fact, the question needs to be asked – Have the Warriors handed over, for the duration of these 6 months, $4,050 each week? This would now total close to $100,000. Has council received this payment from the Warriors or have they been given special dispensation with ratepayers subsidising their court time? That is the crucial question!
- Nothing in Burke’s report allays our fears in regard to the above. Citing casual bookings is irrelevant. The McKinnon Basketball Association lost out on the contract allegedly because they couldn’t match the promised payment of the Warriors. Now we find that the Warriors are not fulfilling the terms that were promised. We have to again ask: how well did Burke do his homework? What analysis, if any, was made of the Warriors’ capacity to pay the agreed to price, when recruiting had, and still is, ongoing?
- We have to also question whether GESAC will ever be used for Women’s BigV competitions since GESAC lacks separate change rooms and a function area for after match. So much for proper holistic planning!
There are countless questions that have never been answered by this council in relation to the finances, the staffing, and the additional costs accrued in delivering GESAC. Residents have been like mushrooms – kept in the dark. Perhaps at the very least we can get a little more honesty simply by refraining from calling this a $41.2 million dollar project and instead admitting that with interest payments, staffing, legal bills, outfittings, costs of traffic lights and extra parking, etc. etc. the project will come in at close to $60+ million – if not even more. Enough spin we say. How about full disclosure on all expenses (itemised) and actual income. It is high time that facts replaced spin and residents knew exactly how their money was being used.
The fiasco and discontent that the basketball allocations have caused is unforgiveable. As we see it, the root cause goes back once again to the abdication of councillor responsibility and leaving everything in the hands of officers. Our previous comments need to be repeated:
- Councillors must ensure that they have a leading role in sporting allocations. This is achieved by careful analysis of the relevant delegations to officers.
- Sporting allocation policy (if one in fact exists) must be made public as must the criteria for decisions. The community plan states that council policies will be available on the website. They aren’t! Transparency is the victim once more.
- If there is absolutely nothing to hide, then why, oh why, has council been so reticent to provide the full information that we have referred to above?
November 12, 2012 at 8:03 PM
Why don’t you mention the fact that Mackinnon Basketball was shown the offer received from Warriors to match match it, Please give the correct picture to your annonymous members.
November 12, 2012 at 9:04 PM
Oakleigh conned everyone. Mackinnon Basketball were established and were able to pay from day 1 as well as fill all courts. Did Oakleigh renegotiate the EOI AFTER they signed the contract? The Association is registered as ‘Oakleigh’ and not Glen Eira, another con!
November 13, 2012 at 1:38 PM
Conned? lol.
They applied to an EOI process advertised by council and won it on the merits of their application, as simple as that.
November 13, 2012 at 7:54 AM
I believe that during the allocation/EOI process, McKinnon Basketball was advised of the hours and hourly court charges offered by the Warriors. McKinnon’s reaction was disbelief that the Warriors had a sufficient membrship base to occupy the court hours and had the financial resources to pay the hourly rate. McKinnon, which is a larger and more financially robust club, could not match it. Basketball Clubs are a pretty closed knit community (each is aware of each others membership base and financial position) so why didn’t the Admin look closer.
When this issue first hit the fan, the offer from the Warriors was, for all the court time allocated to them, a total of $175, 000 pa. regardless of whether the courts were used or not. At the time I was pretty astonished that an amatuer community based club could come up with that chunk of change. I accept that the delayed opening of GESAC has to be taken into consideration, but even so, it is obvious the Warriors are not living up to the deal because they don’t have the resurces (numbers and $). No amount of white washing hides that and no amount of administrative sidestepping hides how flawed the GESAC basketball court allocation process was.
November 13, 2012 at 12:53 PM
So maybe someone can tell us all when the eoi changed and warriors were given consessions. Were the councillors kept informed of the changes? A $175,000 bid will win most expressions of interest.
November 13, 2012 at 2:06 PM
The answer is be after the Warriors were awarded the allocation and after the unofficial opening of GESAC 7/5/2012 – for the exact date ask the Admin
November 13, 2012 at 1:24 PM
The flaw in your logic is that the Warriors are in fact living up to the deal and paying their way.
November 12, 2012 at 8:39 PM
These would be great questions to ask of the audit committee if there was an independent one. For alomst 20 years and for the entire time that Newton has been CEO, Gibbs and McLean have been the “ïndependent” members fo this important committee. Most Councils have a six year maximum for the independent members. Not in Glen Eira…
November 13, 2012 at 7:27 AM
Those two indepependant members are like a bad joke. Their continuing appointment goes against every principal of fair auditing.
November 12, 2012 at 9:14 PM
Looks like a scam to me. Officers of Council have propped up the warriors while they establish. Meanwhile McKinnon Basketball gets bigger. Who wins and why and how much have ratepayers suffered in the process?
November 12, 2012 at 11:10 PM
Ben you have no idea about the Audit Commitee. The AC has nothing to do with the CEO. The Committee is chosen by Council following a process determined by Council. The CEO is not a member of Council and is invited to AC meetings as are other Officers.The AC reports to Council and if the AC is doing it’s job, which it is, the Committee in a badly run Organisation will quickly determine the CEO;s future. This is not the case in Glen Eira and that is why Andrew Newton has been a long term CEO.He is a fantastic CEO. He has been recognised as one of the top CEO’s in Local Government in Australia.Finally if the author of this blog was subject to an Internal Audit they would be sacked for not telling the whole truth in that they fail to inform eg State Government contributions to capital costs and the probability of positive returns that will cover repayments etc.
November 13, 2012 at 11:44 AM
Interesting comments you make. Georgie Crozier MLC for Southern Metropolitan Region says in her ‘Delivering for Oakleigh’ pamphlet to residents in Southern Metropolitan Region – “Locally we are dlivering improved recreational facilities through nearly $5 million in State Government funding. New lights are being installed at Packer Park Velodrome, new playgrounds will be built at Brickmayer’s Park and Murrumbeena Park and the Glen Eira Sports and Aquatic Centre is now officially open” Anyone knows about that?
November 13, 2012 at 4:05 PM
It looks like Libs are targetting Oakleigh District, still a Labor seat. So we have Bentleigh District in their hands and now for Oakleigh. Expect more money going to Glen Eira to satisfy political ambition. Wonder how long the State Government will be bailing out Glen Eira’s inefficiencies!
November 13, 2012 at 6:36 PM
Be good if there was some money to hand out. Fact is the Bracks/Brumby Government left empty cupboards and plenty of half funded projects. The Federal Gov. is ripping off Victoria and giving our share of the GST to Tasmania which is the basket case of Australia. There won’t be any money coming to the Oakleigh District.
November 13, 2012 at 10:34 PM
You may be absolutely right, but that is what Crozier is claiming in her doc. $5m ‘Delivering for Oakleigh’, which includes suburbs Oakleigh, Murrumbeena, Huntingdale, Carnegie and Ormond specifically mentioned. Good luck to her good work. That should not excuse Glen Eira Council to be inefficient. The State Government is trimming its bureaucracy, so should Glen Eira. After all Libs suppose to be better economic managers. I just wonder when was the money promised and/or delivered?
November 12, 2012 at 11:30 PM
Councillors should be asking some serious questions about the allocation process and due diligence
November 13, 2012 at 1:22 PM
Talk about flogging a dead horse!!!
Who is the author of the story above anyway?
There are so many mistruths in it, it is astonishing.
Firstly a Basketball season does not start in December it starts in October.
Second the Warriors have more than enough funds in the bank to pay whatever bills come their way.
Third when the courts were idle while awaiting the construction of the GESAC facility in it’s entirety the Warriors were as agitated as every other user group, probably more so. Also the courts don’t have seperate access and they do share important facilities with the pools such as change rooms and toilets, so you can understand with all the bulding codes etc for such a construction why access was held up.
Fourth the Warriors have gone from strength to strength since starting at GESAC and have activities going on throughout all their allocated hours and now with the VJBL (representative season) commencing they will be busier than ever. The house full sign is up on their open age domestic competitions and their juniors is growing and growing.
Fourth the Warriors gave the McKinnon BA several chances to snare court allocations in a number of compromise proposals all of which were rejected. Council also gave the MBA the chance to provide a compromise which they couldn’t achieve. The word coming out of McKinnon was that the Warriors would fall over within three months of going into GESACand they just needed to sit back and wait for that to happen, when council would come begging for them to fill the space.
If this is indeed correct the people at the MBA who made that assertion must have egg all over their faces right now.
It should also be noted that there was no need for the Warriors to offer any compromise, they had participated and won a completely legitimate EOI process. Despite this and in the best interest of the sport and the kids they held out an olive branch not once, but on a number of occasions.
Fifth the Warriors continue to look for compromises to accommodate all kids in this region in all the venues within the region through a regional competition proposal. This has included meetings with McKinnon’s president and representatives from other Associations on several occasions. Hopefully some common sense will prevail and this will get up so that ALL KIDS get to play at ALL VENUES.
Sixth the court allocations have filled extremely fast, so much so that the Warriors are now using more hours than their original allocation through training use and holiday camp events. Like any Association from time to time you can find spare space, but that is becoming a rare events at GESAC. This is a bit of a red herring anyway as there was never ever any stipulation about having to fill every nook and crany 100% of the time. For example the Warriors played matches over the Melbourne Cup weekend when McKinnon didn’t, so the Warriors in their allocations of games used this time when McKinnon wouldn’t have. I have also been informed that McKinnon didn’t even apply for all the hours up for offer at GESAC in their initial EOI application. If this is the case it’s a bit hypocritical of them or anybody else trying to have a crack at the Warriors utilising hours they were never interested in,
If the author of this blog wants to be taken seriously they should take the time to contact all parties and too gather all the facts as I have done here. To post such a one sided article is too expose yourself as partisan which means you cannot be objective.
I obviously have connections with the Warriors and I have contacted their people for some fo the facts and not one of them has even been contacted from this website for their side of the story. Quite mazing considering that in the time I have followed this blog I have seen stroy after story about this subject with all of them showing a bias towards Mckinnon and against council and the Warriors. A bit of objectivety in the future wouild be greatly apprciated.
Finally as a bit of advice maybe the author of this blog should make sure they have their facts straight before placing something like this out in hyperspace. They should hope that members of the Warriors executive aren’t tempted to look at their legal rights considering the misinformation placed in this particular post.
I doubt they will do so as simply they are way too busy handling all the interest being generated by thei wonderful centre.
November 13, 2012 at 2:25 PM
I’ve read what you’ve had to say with interest. Much of what you’ve said is also flogging a dead horse in that you drag up history about offers to McKinnon. That’s the past and whatever the truth of the situation its not that important now. What you haven’t done except for one sentence about the Warriors having plenty of money in the bank is answer the most important point that the post brings up – have the Warriors paid council every single cent that they promised in their bid and contract or have they had the royal assent from Burke to forgo some of these payments?
We wouldn’t be having any of this discussion if council was a lot more forthcoming with its figures and information. That’s the real issue.
November 13, 2012 at 2:32 PM
You get an invoice and you pay it. Warriors have paid all their invoices and have money in the bank for future invoices. No royal accent or special concessions.
Quit the crap and check the facts!
PS plenty of other facts in above post to refute mistruths in original post, just read through it.
November 13, 2012 at 3:22 PM
Sorry mate – that’s not an answer. When did the first invoice come in? July, August, September, October? And how much was each invoice for? Was it for 90 hours court time per weekor only 20 hours per week once invoice and then the next for 30 hours and so on.
November 13, 2012 at 7:40 PM
It’s a great answer you just don’t like it
November 13, 2012 at 4:44 PM
Thanks for Glen Eira Debates site. At least one knows how the politics is played in this City. Essentially, what’s in it for me is the name of the game. Forget about Greens. Libs and Labs are fighting and the admin is winning. Community? That is defined by admin. Have a look at Glen Eira News. If you are not there you can be or will be ignored.