It was standing room only at tonight’s council meeting which was taken full advantage of by most councillors with further academy award performances by several. Here’s a brief summary of what occurred apart from the Alma Club application which is reported on in full –
- Alma Club development rejected unanimously
- Lipshutz arguments totally inconsistent and arrogant
- Delahunty threw down the gauntlet regarding a request for a report on Notice of Motion and other aspects of the Local Law Meeting Procedures. Newton was looking decidedly uncomfortable.
- Hyams could not help himself once again with personal attacks on a resident and a former councillor, plus of course, allusions to this blog!
- Sounness remains a major concern, and Okotel appears way out of her depth. Esakoff was absent again.
- Not one councillor uttered the word planning or traffic management when it came to how wonderful the Community Satisfaction Survey was despite the fact that the gap between ‘importance’ and ‘performance’ had grown in some crucial areas.
- Public questions remained unanswered, or even worse, lost in the ether somewhere – for the second council meeting running!
ALMA CLUB DEVELOPMENT
Magee moved the motion to reject on several grounds: minimal change area, size, bulk, traffic, neighbourhood character, landscaping, lack of sunlight for dwellings, etc. Seconded by Lipshutz
MAGEE: asked Akehurst to ‘explain’ why the application has already ended up at VCAT
AKEHURST: started off by saying that under the law councils had 60 days to make the decision regardless of the complexity of the proposal. This one wasn’t ‘minor’ or simple and because of the ‘sheer amount of referrals’ to various departments that caused the delay. The planning conference and its organisation also caused a delay and this was something that council didn’t have to do, but council does it anyway because ‘it provides an opportunity for residents to better understand the application and express their views’. This ‘throws’ some time into the process of ‘getting a decision’. He then went on to ‘conjecture’ and thought it ‘fair to say’ that the developer had ‘read the tea leaves’ and guessed that it would end up at VCAT so he probably ‘thought let’s stand in the VCAT queue’ and that’s the reason for this ‘failure appeal’. Claimed that this was ‘good news’ from council’s and residents’ viewpoints since he didn’t think there was any ‘disadvantage to what council does’ about its position. Said that council still has to ‘form a view’ and that all this means is that council doesn’t have to ‘formalise’ its view and that will be the view presented at VCAT.
MAGEE: said that developers have a ‘right to develop land’ and if this was in a different area, bigger street, then ‘it would be fine’. Claimed it ‘would suit Dandenong Rd’ and other areas in Glen Eira. But it ‘doesn’t suit a street that’s a dead end’. Claimed that he’d sat in his car in Wilks St for about 45 minutes and that he ‘didn’t see a lot of traffic’ but that he would ‘hate this development to be in my street’. Admitted that none of the councillors are town planners or experts and all they do is ‘look at the information we’re given’ and then they make a ‘judgement call’. Councillors after all are only ‘mums and dads’ and they judge ‘things on what is acceptable’ and what should be ‘imposed on others’. Said that they’re there to listen and sometimes they make decisions that aren’t popular but this one is ‘easy’. Councillors at last election said they wouldn’t support inappropriate development and ‘this is an imappropriate development’. Finally it’s not the ‘right development for the right street’. (applause).
LIPSHUTZ: started with what he’s always said that ‘I won’t make a decision because it’s a popular decision. I will make a decision because I believe it is the right decision’. People have told him that they voted for him and now he should do what they say but ‘I won’t do that, I’ll do what is right’. Said that he looked at the plans, the site, and thought it was a ‘good development for the site’ because it was large and was going to be developed anyway. Said that he’d been ‘contacted about 50 or 60 times’ by residents and had emails, phone calls, letters, and ‘many of them I disregarded’ because he didn’t ‘think they were valid’. In the end he did what Magee did by asking himself if he was living there ‘would I want this in my street’ and decided ‘I wouldn’t’. Also thought that if they reject and it goes to VCAT then VCAT ‘won’t have anything in-between’ and thought that councillors could still seek to ‘modify’ the development and it will be developed but ‘it has to be appropriate development’. Said he wasn’t ‘convinced’ by arguments about looking at a wall across from houses because the set backs allow it. Also wasn’t convinced that ‘there may be flooding’ because that’s a building issue and ‘not a planning issue’. Traffic also wasn’t convincing because if you’ve got 73 apartments or 50 apartments ‘you’re going to have traffic’. Said that council would probably make this non residential parking permits for the units. Said he was ‘concerned about the mass and the bulk’ since it was ‘too big, too large’ and inappropriate. Said he represents ‘you as residents’ and that he’s ‘got to do what is right’ and ‘not popular’ but here ‘it’s probably both’. Went on to say he was concerned about ‘mischief making’ by some people for claiming that ‘this wouldn’t have happened’ if council had bought the land. Claimed that ‘it was never offered to council’…’council was never going to buy this development’…’it was never offered to council’. Said that council wouldn’t spend 8 million to buy the site and that it is ‘an inappropriate place for a park’. Said that ‘it was always going to be a development site’.
DELAHUNTY: spoke to the gallery saying that they are a wonderful community group and hoped that their opposition would continue and that she’d been told that people had met each other and that’s what ‘community groups are about’. Went on to pay her respects to the work done by the community on this and to Cheryl Forge who was present. Said that all of the points people wrote were ‘well made’ and even though ‘they may feel flippant’ to some other councillors they do ‘impact’ on people’s lives. The points people raised ‘informed our discussions’ and officer reports and her decision to reject the application. The main question was whether the application is ‘appropriate to the site’ and most agree that it isn’t. Even though the officers’ report tried to make this more appropriate she still ‘rejects the premise of the argument’ – that it can be ‘intense development’. Instead of ‘fiddling’ with the proposal via conditions and since they’re not experts then it ‘makes sense’ to reject it. Said that her job as councillor is to ‘bring together the objectives of the planning scheme and your views’. She quoted from the planning scheme about ‘protecting the liveability’ of residents and ‘amenity of Glen Eira’ and any new development ‘provides a high level of amenity’. Admitted that ‘amenity’ was hard to define but it also included parks and as far as as 1998 the old Open Space strategy noted the lack of open space in this area of the municipality. Another statement from this old plan was to be continually on the lookout to acquire more open space ‘so I don’t think it’s mischief making to wonder whether or not Council seriously considered’ buying the land. It’s too late now and ‘nothing’ can be done (applause). Told people ‘never to feel’ that their participation has ‘been a waste of time’ and ‘don’t listen to anyone who tells you that’…’even if those people are sitting around this table’….your participation in this process is what gives our argument validity’. Residents put councillors in their position to ‘carry your arguments forward’. (applause).
SOUNNESS; said if the site was ‘elsewhere’ it might be okay but not where it was in a minimal change area. He would love council to be able to say we’d love only ‘so many units’ but they can’t since it ‘would become unrecognisable’ from its ‘current form’. ‘I’d like to say 20 is enough, 2 storeys is enough’ but ‘we can’t do that’ only respond’ to what has been submitted. When the VCAT hearing come up ‘there will have to be negotiations’. Hoped that there would be ‘a satisfactory outcome down the line’.
LOBO: started off by reading from the Local Government act talking about the role of council to ensure the ‘long term’ benefits for residents. Said the development was ‘an eve of destruction’ and that its ‘intensity’ would ruin ‘neighbourhood character’ and have impact ‘long after the developer has disappeared with a fortune’. (applause). Said that residents need to be ‘looked after’ because they pay their rates and pay for the councillors ‘including the Mayor and all the officers’. ‘Our duty of care and loyalty must be towards our masters and that is you in the gallery’. The development will be an ‘eyesore’ and building it will be like ‘establishing the second alcatraz prison’. Mentioned a couple of permits granted to places in Wilks st – such as a doctors rooms and another 2 unit lot so the impact of traffic and parking is already felt. Said that people are wondering why there isn’t such development ‘on the other side of the road’ in Stonnington, ‘they feel that Glen Eira is a soft target to the developers’ when compared to Stonnington. Houses will be overshadowed and that will affect the existing solar panels on some. ‘This monstrosity of a development’ will cause ‘stress’. Said that ResCode was a ‘joke’ with its parking quotas. The development could have 125 cars and comparing this to what the traffic was when the club was operating is like the second ‘coming of David and Goliath’. Constructionww ould also create ‘chaos’. Let the State Government ‘have blood on their hands’ and the ‘madness of development’. (applause).
OKOTEL: others had already spoken well and ‘eloquently’. For here 2 issues – minimal change area and an ‘overdevelopment’ and ‘inappropriate development’. Said there were ‘technical defects’ like ‘overlooking’ and ‘lack of natural light’ and ‘landscaping of area’. Therefore there are ‘many reasons’ why the application should fail. (applause).
HYAMS: started off by saying that ‘council’s role is not to necessarily represent the people’.Rather they are a ‘quasi-judicial body’ and have to look at planning law. He decides on how he thinks the planning law should ‘be interpreted’. Trouble with saying that they represent the people is that if there is an objection then they’d have to vote with that objection ‘so nothing would ever get through’. ‘So we do need to be responsible’. His decision is ‘therefore based on planning law’. Said it wasn’t an ‘easy decision’ and that he could understand the officers and their recommendations. Saw the ‘major stumbling block’ that it was in a minimal change area but there’s an ‘exception’ if it’s a large block which this is. Said that people who live in a minimal change area have the ‘right to expect’ that there be town houses next to them but not something like this. He would prefer subdivision into houses but ‘it’s not our role to tell the applicant what to do’. Said that a public question asked about the VCAT appeal and when council found out about it. He provided the answer here even though public questions swere usually held at the end. Said that the 60 days ended on June 17th; the appeal was lodged on 21st June and council were notified on the 26th June. Went on to explain that VCAT will now come back to council and ask them to provide a set of conditions for what might be acceptable if they would contemplate giving a permit but this still doesn’t negate council’s opposition to the permit, it will just be a ‘draft permit’ with ‘conditions’.
Went on to answer some of the questions raised at the planning conference. Drainage is part of the building permit so not ‘ignored’. Parking permits would also be banned. Named one individual who had said that Glen Eira is the ‘fastest growing municipality’. He didn’t want people to think that they’re cramming people in so got the ‘census figures’ and ‘there are 17 that grow faster than us’ and ’13 that grow less fast’. Claimed that population had increased by 5.5% and Whyndham had increase by over 40% and Port Phillip and Yarra had also increased more than Glen Eira. Said that it was also ‘suggested that we do nothing to protect our residents from overdevelopment’ but that Glen Eira does have a minimal change policy and ‘that does a lot to protect’ people.‘So it’s a shame that someone who didn’t really have a connection to this application felt the need to come in and say things like that’. Went on to talk about the purchase of the site and said that ‘there was an offer put to us’ to pay off the 3 million debt but ‘we wouldn’t have had the site’ because ‘to buy it would have cost 8 million’ and then redeveloping it another ‘couple of million more’. They also didn’t think that this site was appropriate for a park since they want parks to be ‘more accessible to the community’ but this one was ‘down a narrow one way street’. Said he was ‘surprised’ that Forge suggested this since in her ‘election campaign’ said that ‘our debt was unmanageable and there should be no rate rises’ but still find 10 million for this one. Wished everyone ‘luck’ at VCAT.
MAGEE: disagreed with what Hyams said about Forge since she has always been an ‘advocate’ for ‘financial management’ and always did things with ‘the best conscience’ and ‘best intentions’ whilst a councillor and that ‘she’s still a good friend of mine’. Went on to give advice to developer that it should ‘improve the amenity of the street’ and that it shouldn’t ‘set the amenity’. They have potential to set precedents but change has to ‘enhance’ and not reduce amenity. (applause)
July 3, 2013 at 7:47 AM
Crs. Hyams and Lipshutz comments have lived up to expectations – they displayed their usual arrogance and their total disregard for the community which they attempted to hide behind a very thin veneer.
For Hyams to turn the Alma Club discussion (for gods sake man there were over 50 in the gallery concerned about the many adverse impacts of the development on all aspects of their life) into an opportunity to discredit a resident and a former Councillor is despicable and a true indicator of the caliber of the man – but then again the man did spend his time at the planning conference (something Akehurst “claims” is unique to Glen Eira and gives residents a better opportunity to understand and discuss a planning proposal) chuckling at each argument presented by residents.
As for Lipshutz his comments about doing what is right rather popular is a trotting out of one of his many, mindless old war horse phrases and combined with his comment of just because you voted for me doesn’t mean I have to do what you tell me leads one to wonder how he defines what is right – his definition of right obviously provides little room for the wishes of his electorate. By his own admission traffic and parking impacts are non-issues. His statement that the Alma Club was never offered to Council is totally untrue, so untrue that his mate Hyams had to correct him.
July 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM
This isn’t the first time and won’t be the last that Hyams has demeaned the role of Mayor with his nasty and unwarranted comments about residents and past councillors. If he feels no shame in uttering such comments in public then I dread to think what he says in those secret assembly meetings.
July 3, 2013 at 12:35 PM
Magee deserves credit for not accepting the rudeness of Hyams. If other councillors did the same more often then there would exist the possibility of having a decently run council that placed respect and integrity above shallow and tasteless point scoring.
July 3, 2013 at 8:24 AM
There is one comment in this post that I take a real exception to – that is Hyams comment that implies that a resident has to have a connection to the application before making a comment. It’s an argument he has used before and it is appalling.
I accept that for the most part permit applications are local – for example a development in Glen Huntly has little impact on residential amenity in Bentleigh. However, there are others (eg. the horrendous C60, the Alma Club) that have major implications for the municipality – to be specific intensive development on a minimal change area property greater than 2000 sqm or even a property that is “larger than average” and Council’s failure to have a any policy relating to it (it’s not usual for a developer to purchase adjoining properties). Minimal change is supposedly 80% of the municipality, intensive development in a minimal change area is not a local issue – since when does a resident have to have a “perceived” connection in order for them to have a right to speak against a specific development or have some validity accorded to their argument.
By the way – Hyams’s attempt to discredit the residents statement on the rate of growth in Glen Eira is a clear distortion. The municipalities he compared to Glen Eira were either outer ring municipalities or middle ring municipalities with large pockets of land available/suitable for re-development (eg. Yarra and the Amcor site) which Glen Eira does not have. Indeed the arguments for such an intensive development (put by the developer) include that such land is scarce in Glen Eira.
July 3, 2013 at 8:26 AM
Going to VCAT prior to a Council decision – conspiracy or cock up?
July 3, 2013 at 10:22 AM
Lipshutz should try very hard to desist in portraying himself as the man who does not seek popularity but doing what is “right”. History does not bear out his claims. Faced with resident opposition, large numbers of objections, his “rightness” gains quite a few wobbles. There have been posts put up here in the past that show the effect of concerted resident opposition on planning applications. That’s when all planning law goes out the window and the anti-populists like Lipshutz suddenly become pop stars in voting out applications. There’s been Regent Street, Mahvo Street, Morrice Street and some others. Each had many objections. Voting these out means nothing since VCAT has to apply what’s in the planning scheme. If the planning scheme is rotten then councillors can reject everything but it will still get in. That’s the story of Glen Eira. Get on your high horse like Lipshutz and pretend to be a moral paragon but all the time play to the crowd knowing that it means bugger all in the end.
July 3, 2013 at 10:34 AM
Off topic, but significant in the debate on ‘development’. Please note carefully Matthew Guy’s comments (and please don’t snigger!) and compare this with the laissez-faire approach that has been adopted by Newton, Akehurst and years of complicity by councillors. Residents should ask themselves if 4 storeys is the recommended ‘model’ then why has Glen Huntly Rd got 10 storeys and Dandenong Rd 12 storeys and Carnegie built out completely? What on earth has this planning department been doing for the past 10 years? –
‘Build up near transport’ to stop sprawl
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Buildings along public transport routes should be at least four stories high to avoid further expanding the fringes of large cities, the nation’s top infrastructure adviser has argued.
Infrastructure Australia’s annual priority report has warned the cost of fringe expansion has become unsustainable, calling for incentives to increase urban densities closer to city centres.
”We should aim for at least four- to six-storey developments along roads and routes that are well serviced by public transport, and for higher dwelling densities in larger centres,” the report said.
”The costs of fringe expansion, which are borne by governments and residents, are unsustainable and will reduce economic performance and liveability into the future.”
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The report, released each year to help rank projects for Commonwealth funding, said while greenfield development had the immediate appeal of less expensive housing, it imposed more than double the development and transport costs of infill development.
Planning Minister Matthew Guy said the report was broadly consistent with the state government’s approach. ”I’m not a fan of corridor development [along public transport routes] but certainly node development around railway stations,” Mr Guy told The Age.
The priority list also strongly backs public funding for public transport over roads, suggesting big road projects should be funded by tolls rather than all taxpayers.
It follows claims by Opposition Leader Tony Abbott that the Commonwealth should not be in the business of funding urban rail projects, only roads. Mr Abbott has backed his claim by promising $1.5 billion for the Napthine government’s $6billion to $8billion east-west road link.
Victoria says the project will deliver $1.4 in benefits for every $1 invested, but that claim was not tested by Infrastructure Australia in its latest priority list, with the state government missing the deadline for assessment.
That meant the road tunnel continued to be ranked by Infrastructure Australia as showing ”real potential”, the second lowest of four tiers. But the latest assessment downgraded plans for a Metro rail tunnel from a top assessment of ”ready to proceed” to ”threshold”, suggesting it needs more work.
Infrastructure Australia chairman Sir Rod Eddington said there was a ”deep disconnect” between the infrastructure we want and what we are prepared to pay for. He urged governments to sell or lease infrastructure assets and re-invest the money in new infrastructure.
Sir Rod said governments were reluctant to take on debt, baulked at lifted taxes, were uncomfortable with tolls and charges and found it difficult to privatise existing assets. At the same time, there was mounting concern about issues such as congestion.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/national/build-up-near-transport-to-stop-sprawl-20130702-2pa4x.html#ixzz2XwD2QDs4
July 3, 2013 at 10:48 AM
When you think back to all of Council’s comments on the inequities and unjustified decisions made by VCAT and the importance of Council, rather then VCAT, making planning decisions, Council’s failure to adhere to the 60 day statutory timeline is reprehensible.
In the past Council has justified making decisions because of the statutory 60 day requirement, yet here we have them (even with an ever expanding number of planners that are reportedly highly qualified) being unable to meet it.
July 3, 2013 at 11:04 AM
The dates provided by Hyams for the 60 day finalisation of the application DO NOT TALLY. Council received the application on the 17th March. They claim that the decision was due on the 17th June. That is NOT 60 days! What intervened we ask? If ‘more information’ was sought then this should have been announced. How ‘more information’ can be sought on what is described as ‘concept plans’ also raise questions!
July 3, 2013 at 12:56 PM
Everyone knows that there are lies, damn lies and statistics. When they come out of the mouth of Hyams then there has to be alarm bells ringing everywhere. He is dead wrong on what he is supposed to have said. The profile.id.com group work for the majority of councils. Most councils regard their statistics as totally reliable. I’ve gone to the figures and looked up Port Phillip, Yarra and Glen Eira to see if Hyams got it right or if the resident got it right. No prize for guessing the answer. Glen Eira’s population has increased more than these other councils he named. The figures look at 2006 to the 2011 census. Here’s what I found –
Port Phillip – 85,096 – 91,373
Yarra – 69,330 – 74,092
Glen Eira – 124,085 – 131,015
July 3, 2013 at 2:02 PM
Dear Macca,
to be fair, Hyams was relying on ABS stats. So, we’ve gone to the relevant pages on the ABS website and looked up the numbers for the 3 councils in question. Our findings support your view, that even on Hyams cited source, his statements are incorrect. Readers can verify this for themselves by typing in the relevant local area and then downloading the various Excel files. The starting point would be: http://www.censusdata.abs.gov.au/census_services/getproduct/census/2011/communityprofile/20802
Our results comparing the figures from the 2006 and the 2011 census are:
PORT PHILLIP – 86,883 – 93,712
YARRA – 70,974 – 75,867
GLEN EIRA – 129,550- 137,763
Stonnington in one officers’ report declared that they tended to place their faith in the profile.id set of figures.
July 3, 2013 at 1:09 PM
Its hard to know what to make of the collective utterances of our councillors above, other than they’re really struggling. Cr Hyams’ comments seem at odds with LGA, which spells out in some detail what the Objectives [s3C], Role [s3D], Functions [s3E], and Powers [s3F] are. It doesn’t mention anywhere having a quasi-judicial role, but it does mention acting as a representative government, providing leadership, advocating the interests of the local community, encouraging active participation in community life. As it happens, “the primary objective of a Council is to endeavour to achieve the best outcomes for the local community having regard to the long term and cumulative effects of decisions” [s3C(1)].
I’ve commented before that there is very little law involved in planning decisions. Council can grant a permit; grant a permit subject to conditions; refuse to grant a permit on any ground it thinks fit [PAEA s60]. There are matters the Responsible Authority must consider, which include the Planning Scheme [PAEA s60]. Planning Schemes theoretically are binding [PAEA s16] but most of the content of a Planning Scheme are unenforceably vague, such as the use of “should” instead of “must”. We don’t know if Council intends to make any discretionary constraints on development mandatory under the new residential zones.
Taking Cr Hyams’ comments literally, one would expect the Wilks St application to be assessed against the policies and standards contained in GEPS. Well…does it comply with the Minimal Change Area policy? Does it comply with the residential amenity standards contained in s55? It’s been refused a permit, but not in a way that identifies the elements of the scheme that it fails to meet or respond to satisfactorily.
Jeff Akehurst’s bluster about it taking more than 60 days makes it clear that council staff were not prepared to reject it, and instead worked at conditions to reduce its non-compliance. This goes against the Actions contained in the Council Plan, and since Cr Hyams believes in fulfilling Council’s role, he would be aware that this includes “establishing strategic objectives and monitoring their achievement”. The Actions in the Plan may be bogus but they’re there.
Sadly there is too much money involved in Planning for it be managed based on sets of principles that are applied consistently and uniformly. Ever since M2030 was published, it has been blatantly misused to justify the loss of amenity for many residents. Council hasn’t done what it is supposed to in terms of planning for activity centres, and the result bears little resemblance to the Figures contained in M2030. It is extremely rare to see any 4-storey development get assessed against all the criteria contained in the Guidelines for Higher Density Residential Development.
One reason why all residents should be involved in decisions like these is that Council and VCAT cannot be trusted. Each time compliance with an amenity standard is waived or a policy ignored, somebody suffers as a result. Eventually we all suffer, as through precedent it becomes routine to waive compliance. This should be motivating people to evaluate and review the Scheme continuously to improve it, but sadly its been reduced to the status of a sideshow, something that has to be done to tick a box once every 4 years.
One of the Objectives of Council is “to ensure transparency and accountability in Council decision making”. In practice it is very hard to get Council to be transparent or accountable. At a minimum it should be possible to see for every non-compliance with policy and standards, who made the decision and their reasons why. Given how weak planning law is, Council and VCAT can pretty much do as they like, including encourage multi-unit development to overlook people’s secluded private open space if it helps a developer make more money. Currently there is no defence available to the public for this sort of behaviour.
Some of the comments made re Wilks St, both by councillors and objectors, are amusing. I’ll point out that Beckitt Park in Balwyn is accessed via a no-through road, and it is narrow when cars are parked on both sides [lots of multi-unit development, therefore extensive use of street parking]. The traffic generally does cope, albeit most cars wouldn’t bother trying to turn right into Whitehorse Rd.
July 3, 2013 at 2:16 PM
http://www.danbymp.com/local-news/1927-ajax-president-gives-conservative-councillors-both-barrels.html
July 3, 2013 at 2:55 PM
Lobo is off his rocker.
July 3, 2013 at 3:40 PM
I want to warn the objectors here not to get their hopes up too much about council supporting them at VCAT. I was one of the Mahvo street objectors and to our shock and horror discovered that the proposals that the officers took to VCAT were exactly the same as what they recommended from the start – even though every single councillor voted against the development. From experience the same is going to happen here which is laughable. You get the situation that the council is supposed to argue against something but the recommendation that they themselves wrote in is saying that its okay to build x number of flats. In our case all vcat had to do was say this is housing diversity so bad luck and council (that is the officers) think that so many can go in. I’d suggest to everyone involved to prepare themselves for this last kick in the guts from council and get some first class expert help. Don’t rely on anything they say and never rely on them to carry the case for you. They’re not interested in working for residents. Even Hyams comes out with this statement that is so wrong.
July 3, 2013 at 3:56 PM
Readers should find the following extract from the latest VCAT decisions of interest if they compare council’s position on the 100 Gardenvale Rd property to what occurred with the Alma Club. The Gardenvale developer wanted a 3 storey and 12 apartment style block. It was in a Minimal Change Area and the size of the land was larger than the average block (just under 700 square metres). What we find illuminating is the council argument here for refusal of permit. Please note that this was initially refused under delegation by the ‘manager’. Appealed and then an amended set of plans put in. The VCAT decision relates to the amended plans. However, it is valid to ponder:
1. why the Alma Club development wasn’t hit on the head right from the start by officers and
2. why officers didn’t put up the same arguments as featured below.
We quote directly from the judgement –
” Glen Eira City Council has refused to grant the planning permit, primarily because it considers the development to be too intense and out of character with the ‘minimal change’ policy area in which the site sits. It also is opposed to a number of specific design elements of the proposal, including a lack of visitor parking on site. The decision of Council is supported by a number of nearby residents.”
(http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/vic/VCAT/2013/1026.html)
July 3, 2013 at 7:40 PM
I take issue with Cr Hyams’ view that the Minimal Change Area policy protects people. The Minimal Change Area policy only protects *some* people. VCAT has explained that *because* of Council’s Minimal Change Area policy it will not protect the amenity of people in Housing Diversity areas, yet Council expects in the future the majority of people to live in Housing Diversity Areas (without open space). The clusters of restored Edwardian houses and california bungalows that Council clumsily included in its Housing Diversity Areas, whose character is the same as covered by Neighbourhood Character Overlays elsewhere, have been ignored. Council has abandoned C90 (transition areas), which was a half-hearted effort to address some aspects of its policy failures, and its Urban Village boundaries make a mockery of the principles of Activity Centre design contained in M2030.
July 3, 2013 at 8:27 PM
The issue of the bullsh*t traffic and parking report, included in the officer’s report, has not been raised – it is without any substantiation and totally odds with residents experiences. O’Briens should be asked to substantiate their ludicrous claims (particularly when they themselves have been known to use “anecdotal evidence” – yet here they go discounting the residents anecdotal evidence without being called to account – did they do a traffic survey of Wilks Street during the clubs fully operational days?).
Methinks the residents should have raised it as a public question and be continually questioning it – this bullsh*t report should not go unchallenged.
July 3, 2013 at 8:46 PM
The place is going to rack and ruin. Planning is a joke, traffic is a joke, sports ground allocations are a joke, consultation is a joke and councillors are a joke in not exercising their legal and moral obligations to demand that these overpaid pen pushers follow orders, stop telling people bullshit, answer public questions honestly, and start being competent and not getting paid for doing bugger all.
Pilling is patting himself on the back for getting another staff member at $70,000 plus. That’s another joke if he or she’s as good as what’s already there. If they are any good then they will soon be dragged down to the lowest level by the others and the culture that Newton has created.The whole lot of them must be turfed out.
July 3, 2013 at 9:18 PM
Correction – unless they are an outside consulting firm paid humongous bucks to sprout the Council line they wouldn’t apply for the job – a stint at Glen Eira does not look good on a CV.
July 3, 2013 at 8:51 PM
Anyone know if the developer handed out how to vote cards for the gang?
July 3, 2013 at 9:14 PM
My advise to the objectors is to demand a copy of the meeting’s tape be handed over to the Ombudsman and the Municipal Inspectorate immediately (i.e. before Council has a chance to erase the tape). At time same time alert the Victorian Local Government Association (VLGA) and the Municipal Association of Victoria (MAV) of what’s coming.
The discussion that I witnessed accords with the report of this blog – and it shows Council at it’s distorted and half truth, dysfunctional best. Anyone, with any knowledge of the laws and standards relating to local government and the concept of good governance, will trip over their jaw if they stand up while listening to the tape.
July 3, 2013 at 9:35 PM
I want to say something about the Lipshutz and Hyams comments. They’ve made me very angry. I don’t live anywhere near the racecourse but my sister did. I saw what this did to her and her family and it also affected me and my family. On what Hyams said that means that I’m irrelevant and don’t have any right to say a damn thing – even though I pay my rates and therefore employ the likes of him and Lipshutz plus all the others in planning. Every resident is entitled to have a say and give an opinion because what happens in one planning area can and often does affect people elsewhere even if it’s only with more traffic and less parking.
Lipshutz hasn’t got a clue about anything and his statements prove this. He ignores what people say because with his ego he doesn’t think their views are “valid”. Exactly what expertise has he got in planning to say that his opinion is better than anyone elses? I know he’s an expert on heritage because he’s told us. Now we’re supposed to add planning to his list of incredible talents. The man can’t even get his stories straight or tee them up carefully with Hyams. They are mainly responsible for everything that’s lousy in this council and for giving Newton the go ahead to keep going. The sooner we’re rid of them then living in Glen Eira might just become a pleasure again.
July 4, 2013 at 6:42 AM
Lipshutz’s performance at Council was a real about face – on Saturday his comments to residents were
. roll over – it’s going to VCAT – you’re gone. No mention of Council’s failure
. the traffic report has been substantiated. No mention of date or results of the traffic analysis that provided that substantiation.
July 4, 2013 at 3:41 PM
Lipshutz new that Magee was going to get his rejection motion up and needed to get on board.