July 17, 2013
Waiting, Waiting, Waiting……
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July 17, 2013 at 11:49 AM
I’m not expecting miracles, despite Hyams’ claims. If true that council has not decided anything yet, then this stands as a condemnation of council’s lack of adequate planning and regard for community input. I suspect that the glare of publicity has more to do with his sentence than any intention to seek community views. It must be very hard to sit back and say nothing when the work of neighbours is repeatedly in the public eye and the lack of proactivity is becoming an issue.
Even if there is some form of consultation, the previous post and Glen Eira’s history doesn’t inspire me to believe that much will result. For all the spin and rhetoric, consultation does not exist in Glen Eira. The 2010 review made that crystal clear when it comes to planning. Everything was to be reviewed “inhouse” meaning no public input. When there is the meagre opportunity for a say, the methods and options available are so limited and so manipulated that they are rendered ineffectual, meaningless, or are basically ignored. The conservatory consultation is the current exemplar.
The quote that councils aren’t doing enough to inform the public is totally accurate when applied to this council. Before any meaningful consultation can occur people have to know and understand the issues. They don’t even know the current schemes much less what the changes might imply. My guess is that 90% of residents wouldn’t even know the zones that they live in or how these could change. Kingston has made the effort to educate and inform. Stonnington also looks like it has gone to great lengths. Glen Eira has done nothing because this is what they want – keeping the rabble ignorant and thus far more susceptible to the spin and lies.
I congratulate Kingston and Stonnington and others as well as the Leader and this blog for focusing on planning. The letter writer has put it in a nutshell – “We need to ensure we have our say as residents”.
July 17, 2013 at 12:20 PM
Miller’s got it right on at least one point when she says exhaustive community consultation and responsibility for council. The rest is hogwash. What she’s really saying is turn Virginia estate into 10 story blocks and hope like hell that that doesn’t mean 6 story blocks in other parts. Tough luck for peopled living near by. I thought apartheid was dead and buried. With this council and the libs its been brought back to life so that some people are second class citizens and others can still have gardens and open space.
July 17, 2013 at 1:16 PM
Miller has been exposed for wanting to help this developer to get a rezoning without the public knowing. Start packing up your boxes Ms Miller almost time to go back to South Yarra.
July 17, 2013 at 6:20 PM
Not that simple. Council has had a bit to do with all this going back to the first amendment and putting a big tick in the box. Magee can squeal now. Councillors should have been squealing back then. They’re still not squealing.
July 17, 2013 at 2:23 PM
If the comment attributed to Hyams is accurate, then there’s a shift in position and the pressure must be getting to them. The answer to the public question was Council hasn’t decided. Now there’s the implication that maybe, maybe, maybe there will be consultation but how wide and well resourced and objective and useful and appropriate still needs deciding. It’s not a NO, but definitely not a YES. Keep on keeping the bastards honest I say.
July 17, 2013 at 3:40 PM
For those interested, we’ve been informed that there’s a Meet & Greet with Michael Danby this coming Saturday (July 20th) at the Goathouse, Glen Huntly Rd. Elsternwick. That’s next to the railway station. Time: 3 – 4pm
July 17, 2013 at 9:01 PM
Anonymous says keep the bastards honest. Here, here.
We are going to the Kingston City Council community consultation you advertised. At least someone can explain what this means for my shop. Hyams where is our rate money going? We pay YOUR wages. We deserve answers.
July 17, 2013 at 10:30 PM
Kingston council does not appear to be having any problems in consulting with its traders and local businesses as to the locations of the new commercial zones. To the best of our knowledge, no such “consultation” has occurred in Glen Eira! If this is indeed the case, then traders should be asking why. We also remind readers that the Commercial Centres policy was removed from the planning scheme in recent times!
July 17, 2013 at 11:00 PM
Just like the delayed GESAC opening ….. an announcement, then nothing nothing nothing. Then boom – there it is.
Only this time the boom is gonna be even bigger and residents will not know what hit them until 5 stories goes up next to them and they realise that they can’t do a thing about it except re perhaps replant their garden with shade tolerant plants.
July 18, 2013 at 9:45 AM
Hyams has lost the plot. Hyams, Miiller & Southwick together need (MODERATORS:rest of sentence deleted)
July 18, 2013 at 1:58 PM
For the 5th time since September 2012, Stonnington Council has included an officer’s report on the Residential Zones and the Metropolitan Planning policy for discussion. Glen Eira council has only had one item on each, which was limited to the submissions.
We’ve taken the following directly from the agenda items for 22nd July. Readers should again note:
1. The plan for community consultation
2. Importance of planning scheme review in light of rewriting of MSS by the Minister (not one word about this has been uttered by Glen Eira of course!) and nothing about the requirement to review the scheme. The argument of course will be that this is being done “inhouse” via the introduction of the residential zone reforms. We also note that the councillor briefing minutes are silent on this issue! Either nothing has been discussed, or the minutes are far from an accurate representation of what goes on in these secret meetings! Both possibilities are unacceptable.
Here’s what Stonnington tell us:
DISCUSSION
The Draft Metropolitan Planning Strategy (MPS) is proposed to be released by State Government at the end of July / early August 2013. State Government has indicated there will be 4-6 weeks consultation period, for Councils to undertake community consultation, to update Councillors and to provide Council’s submission. It is considered that this consultation period should be extended to enable a sufficient time for Council to seek comments from the community and coordinate a thorough, considered response endorsed by Council. The consultation period should recognise the importance of this Strategy across Metropolitan Melbourne. Council has written to the Minister for Planning to seek a longer time frame for the consultation on the draft Metropolitan Planning Strategy. Both Council and the community need to be ready to feed into this process.
To ensure Council has sufficient time to consider the new policy and endorse the submission to State Government, the community will have only two to three weeks to provide any comments to Council if an extension to the consultation period is not given by the Minister for Planning.
The final MPS is scheduled to be released in October 2013. Also proposed to be released at this time is a rewritten draft of the State Planning Policy Framework (Framework) to be consistent with the new MPS. The draft State Planning Policy Framework will be released for the minimum consultation period. It is expected the revised Framework will be included in Planning Schemes in November / December 2013.
Councils are also required to review their Planning Schemes under Section 12B(1) of the Planning and Environment Act within 12 months of Council’s new Council Plan being adopted. In Stonnington, this would be required by 3 June 2014. Undertaking this review prior to the release of the new Framework will result in duplication when the Framework is finally released. One of the key functions of a planning scheme review is to ensure that the planning scheme aligns effectively with State planning policy objectives. To ensure Councils have enough time to realign the Planning Scheme with both the new Metropolitan Strategy and the new Framework during the review it will be necessary for the completion date to be extended until the end of 2014.
MPS and Residential Zones Consultation
Notification of Stage One of the consultation for both the draft MPS and Residential Zones will occur at the same time towards the end of July 2013 (currently being undertaken). When the draft MPS is released by the State Government, Council will commence its own consultation with the community to help inform its submission.
# The MPS Consultation Action Plan is attached to this report (Attachment 2).
Next Steps
An advertisement will be placed in the Stonnington Leader on Tuesday 23 July to advise the community of the upcoming consultations on State Government planning reforms.