Item 9.14 – Audio Visual Recordings of Council Meetings
Delahunty moved a motion that more information be provided on how Kingston and Melbourne City Council operate their recordings of council meetings. Magee seconded.
DELAHUNTY: said that she basically wants to ‘increase the participation in local government’. This would let people see what council does at ‘a time that’s convenient’ for them. Thought it was very important that they keep looking at the various ‘options’ around and how other councils have ‘found solutions’. Said that ‘I’m quite okay with spending some money in the next budget’ on this. Wanted information on streaming as opposed to ‘digital recordings’ because choices on costs are involved here. Looked forward to the report coming back.
MAGEE: said that many people don’t come because of various reasons like shift work or child care and can’t make it. But they say that they ‘wished’ they could and want to know what happened. The minutes of meetings ‘doesn’t fill in all the blanks’ like ‘who said what, when and where’. It’s also good as a ‘historical’ record or ‘archive’. Said that all the history of GESAC is gone and that’s a shame. Also schools would benefit when they’re studying local government. Mainly it’s a way for the ‘other 140,000 people’ to find out what’s going on and they probably don’t even know when council meetings are on at the moment. People might only be interested in one thing like a planning issue so with this they could look it up and see what happened. Said he wasn’t in favour of live streaming but it’s something that ‘could be released with the minutes of the meeting’. Saw it as a ‘tool’ for the future.
HYAMS: supported the motion to ‘increase’ involvement and would like to see more people in the gallery. Even the reporter is absent tonight but with this they could write up their reports from the office the next day without attending because ‘we all know how cash strapped the Leader is’. Said that there are probably a lot of reasons why people can’t make it to meetings so it’s worthwhile to ‘at least examine’ the issues.
LOBO: said it was an ‘important tool’ so residents will know how ‘we are performing’. Said that residents have told him about councillors coming and ‘knocking on their doors’ and that they ‘know nothing about the candidate’. Therefore this should help people ‘gauge how the councillor is performing’, ‘how they are behaving including banging on the table’. Also ‘how they are gossiping, how they are passing remarks’ .
PILLING: thought it was a ‘good idea’ to ‘investigate’ this further.
DELAHUNTY: reiterated the point about increasing participation. Thought that there ‘was all round merit’ to the motion.
MOTION PUT and Lobo asked for a division. The only councillor to vote against was ESAKOFF.
COMMENT
Once again there is a motion for ‘more information’. We interpret this as an implied criticism of the original report though of course not one word to this effect was uttered by anyone. We also find it interesting that Lipshutz, Okotel and Esakoff remained silent throughout the discussion. According to the Code of Conduct councillors are expected to voice the grounds for their votes. Surely it is incumbent on both, and especially Esakoff to state her reasons for voting against the motion? We predict the logic of their actions go something like this:
1. This is only the call for another report. The real ‘debate’ will happen next time around when there could possibly be a motion to install audio/recordings. Better to keep our powder dry until this eventuates.
2. This gives them time to ‘work’ on their colleagues and to concoct some further spurious arguments against
3. To be seen to reject a motion for a report is not good public relations. As Hyams has so often said, to reject a report would imply that they are not ‘democratic’ and open to new ideas and that they’ve got something to hide!
We will be watching this with great interest but doubt that if it eventuates it will be clear of ‘editing’ and ‘censorship’. The only certainty is that this is all still a long, long way off. Further, does this call for another ‘policy’? Inclusion into the Local Law? or merely another set of ‘guidelines’ that are entirely ‘flexible’ and open to interpretation. If the former, can we expect that the Local Laws Committee will be involved? We also remind readers that not so long ago Hyams made the comment that he was opposed to recordings since there were often ‘asides’ that might be picked up! All in all, the potential permutations and combinations are fascinating to contemplate! Decisiveness is definitely not the hallmark of this set of councillors!
November 28, 2013 at 10:17 AM
Giving lots more people access to what goes on at meetings would be a fate worse than death for some of these clowns. Lobo’s dead right. Their crap could be judged for what it is. If the c60 stuff was available they’d be booted out on their ear. The less people know about what goes on the better for them and for the other clowns that get paid a fortune and sit in offices plotting and scheming.
November 28, 2013 at 11:00 AM
Ummmm …. where was the emphasis on community participation when they did the behind the scenes deals to get the planning zones implemented.
November 28, 2013 at 11:31 AM
With all due respect Gleneira you’ve got it wrong this time. The gang are quite “decisive” when it comes to putting the shackles on any democratic reform. No ifs and buts then.
November 28, 2013 at 11:51 AM
What is wrong to be dramatic when stupid questions or manoeuvring is done? Full conviction should be expressed to drive the point. The residents will be the judge when they see the Visual Recording . Lobo was within his rights.
He could have thrown the shoe on Hyams!
November 28, 2013 at 5:09 PM
No wonder Maggie voted against. She functions on keeping residents in the dark and pretence. No way known she would want a publicly available recording.
November 28, 2013 at 7:26 PM
Dual personality will be seen by all.
November 28, 2013 at 9:01 PM
This is an absolute no-brainer.
If we are to believe them, it would seem that all councilllors pay lip service to the idea that they would like to see more interest in council meetings from the community. Hyams says he would like more people in the gallery.
So what’s the difference between viewing council meetings in person or online? There are no legal issues that would apply to live streaming that don’t apply to any public meeting.
Live streaming is now a relatively inexpensive process. Cost is not an issue.
We have live broadcasting of Federal and State Parliaments. About time council caught up.
November 28, 2013 at 9:19 PM
Newton and Burke have their little list of troublemakers. Online makes them anonymous. There is no way that Newton and Burke will allow Esakoff, Lipshutz and Hyams to approve this.