A new low has been reached with the following ‘debate’ on the Kornhauser application.
Delahunty moved the motion to accept with changes – conditions requiring unloading area and that this shouldn’t be ‘used for any other purpose’. Sounness seconded.
DELAHUNTY: said that this was ‘incredibly difficult process’ for residents and didn’t give her any ‘pleasure to stand here and deliver a verdict tonight’. Said it was a ‘beautiful’ street and ‘suffers from being very beautiful and popular’ and she uses it when she visits Masada hospital. Said that councillors had asked officers to ‘review’ the parking in the area and that the notice of decision does have ‘regard’ for the ‘very relevant objectors’ opinion’. Realised that the objectors would be wondering how councillor can ‘allow’ this to ‘come about’ and she thought that the non-residential uses in residential zones policy has some ‘deliberate ambiguity to it’ so that decisions can be made on some non residential uses. Went on to say that in order to ‘minimise’ the impact on neighbours ‘council has done several things’ such as limiting hours and numbers of students and to limit ‘traffic movement’ and to provide car parking ‘which is an absolute necessity’. Said that what council can’t do in a permit, but she hopes will happen in that ‘everyone will go away’ here tonight ‘in good faith’ and that people come together and work together. Hoped that the permit will not ‘interrupt neighbourhood amenity’. Stated that there were some things raised by objectors that ‘may seem relevant but can’t actually be considered’ such as noise and the type of education being provided. These couldn’t be ‘discussed’. Thought that the conditions were trying to ‘strike a balance’ and hoped that everyone would be kind to one another and that the applicant adheres to the conditions.
SOUNNESS: acknowledged that there’s a history to this application and that there are ‘grounds’ under planning to consider it again. He found it ‘striking’ that such a small school could ‘generate’ that amount of ‘correspondence’ and that it’s ‘got support by the community’ and also ‘concerns’ from the community. Went on to claim that the conditions seek to ‘confirm’ numbers of staff, students, etc. ‘These things give surety’. Said that the planning scheme isn’t definitive and ‘there is ambiguity’. He thought that a school is one thing and a home education is another and that this application ‘sits’ somewhere in between. Ultimately he couldn’t see anything to say ‘that this should not proceed’. Thought that the conditions ‘encourage good behaviour within the community’ but council isn’t a ‘policeman’ that’s going to stand ‘at the corner counting’ so he ‘hopes’ that parties recognise the conditions and act accordingly. Council needs to do the ‘best’ they can ‘by the tools they have’. He was confident that the conditions set down would provide the best ‘outcome’.
LIPSHUTZ: Said that he chaired the planning conference and said that he was ‘disappointed’ that no objectors showed up because he wanted to hear what they had to say. Stated that he did hear from objectors ‘this morning’ but that this was ‘too little too late’ in ‘terms of trying to convince councillors’. If they had shown up then they would have heard that officers look at parking and amenity and noise and that ‘those are the issues’. Many objections were raised but ‘outside those principles’ and which ‘can’t be looked at’ since council is only able to look at ‘planning law’ since they had a ‘quasi-judicial’ function and have ‘to enforce planning law’. Said that in the past he had said that he doesn’t want ‘a school in my street. I don’t want Mr Scopus in my street’ but ‘this is 25 students’and for him this wasn’t ‘particularly onerous’. Talk about parties intimidating each other was ‘unfortunate’ but all council can do is ‘look at planning principles’. Claimed that council basically ‘tried to limit the nature of this institution’. If there is student ‘creep’ well all that means is that the ‘applicant will have to come back to council to make an application’ and he thinks that it won’t be looked upon ‘favourably’. In answering the question of ‘how do we know’ how many students front up Lipshutz said ‘well council can have spot checks’ and ‘they will be brought to task’ if the permit isn’t adhered to. There’s been ‘distrust’ and now it’s ‘important’ that everyone ‘goes away’ and allow the ‘applicants to proceed and do what they have to do’ and ‘be good neighbours’. ‘If they’re not, they will pay the consequences’.
LOBO: went through the history of the application – ie council refusal, vcat. Said that the school ‘has been operating for some time now’ but the owners are now ‘trying to put their records in order’. Claimed that officers had addressed all issues like parking and the covenant. Said that Victoria accepts ‘home schooling’ and that council’s policy ‘cements’ this approach. Went on to say that ‘I have always said that schools should be separate from residents’ so kids can ‘shout and play’. Said the motives in running the school by the applicant is ‘commendable’ and that they are an ‘epitome of the community’ because ‘they enjoy good integrity and character’. Since he’s got a few ‘Jewish family friends’ he ‘understands’ the organisation who are ‘selfless’ and ‘reach out to everyone without discrimination’. He’s also been told that ‘preconceived evil is not in their nature’. Said that this needs to looked at in terms of the new application and the ‘Kornhauser’s philanthropic’ contribution to society. “I do not think that their rabbis hate me anymore’.
DELAHUNTY: said that objectors not attending the planning conference is ‘disappointing but understandable under the circumstances’ and this doesn’t mean that their written objections weren’t ‘taken into consideration’. She didn’t think that ‘Cr Lipshutz was suggesting that’. Said that one objector had asked her whether she would like to live there her response was that if she didn’t ‘know the history, I would be absolutely thrilled’ but if she had ‘been through’ what residents have been through ‘I might think differently’. But ‘as it stands now’ being close to parks and transport, ‘Yes I would live there’. She ‘hoped that this street is a happy place to live’.
MOTION PUT and CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
PS: A reader kindly posted the URL for the Dilbert cartoon below. We thought that it so precisely sums up the Glen Eira Council culture and philosophy that it requires highlighting.

December 21, 2013 at 2:43 PM
My god. Do these morons ever listen to what they say. Each one contradicts the other. Just a couple that I’ve picked up from this –
1. Sounnes says council can’t be a policeman. Lipshutz says there will be spot checks.
2. There’s planning law that is rigid and definite and then it’s ambiguous
3. Lobo’s plain off his tree trying to show that he really likes Jews
4. Delahunty is singing full throated from the Lipshutz/Newton song sheet – even trying to cover up for that moron’s faux pas
5. Lipshutz’s too little too late tells me that he didn’t even bother to read the written objections. These objectors probably saw the writing on the wall and didn’t want to waste their time. Besides, the officers reports to planning conferences only come out with the agenda (Friday) so when the hell were these objectors supposed to contact Mr Wonderful? They could have hoped that the officers would reject the application. If he so desperately wants to hear from objectors then he should change the way this council communicates with people and gives them plenty of time to do their lobbying. I’d like to know how many times he has met with the applicant or council officers have met with the applicant. That would tell the true story.
December 21, 2013 at 5:12 PM
Ya missed one – noise. Delahunty says nay and our resident genuis says yes. Wanna bet he is talking through his backside as he always does and has never, ever, read the planning scheme. A bod who loves the sound of his own voice even when all it spurts is utter crap.
December 21, 2013 at 4:42 PM
If ever there was a great example of the pointlessness of Glen Eira Planning conferences it was C60. Two hundred people and Lipshutz got bored so he shut the objectors down and ended the conference before people had the chance to talk…and Pilling, Hyams and Esakoff just stood behind him and backed the MRC and administration over the residents. The message there is don’t even bother with the planning conferences. This lot won’t listen.
December 21, 2013 at 6:16 PM
I pray that Newton drops the lawsuit against Penhalluriack. Comments like this will stuff the Glen Eira case and lead to big costs awarded against the Council.
December 21, 2013 at 10:32 PM
The leaflet of rotten apple or rotten lemon was the most appropriate leaflets that were distributed in last council elections. Why are Lipshutz and Hyams on the Council? (MODERATORS: sentence deleted) Lawyers should never be on the Council. The state government cares a hoot for local government.
December 21, 2013 at 10:51 PM
Lipshutz has no credibility – his comments of “If there is student ‘creep’ well all that means is that the ‘applicant will have to come back to council to make an application’ and he thinks that it won’t be looked upon ‘favourably’. In answering the question of ‘how do we know’ how many students front up Lipshutz said ‘well council can have spot checks’ and ‘they will be brought to task’ if the permit isn’t adhered to” are pure bullshit.
Yet the officers report states that the school has be operating illegally for over 12 months and that Council’s inspectors have had difficulties gaining access for inspection purposes.
Not to mention how granting a retrospective permit shows just how good a job Council does at bringing repeated recalcitrants “to task”
December 21, 2013 at 11:08 PM
The likes of the gang will probably always be there because the Jewish residents will vote on names and who is Jewish. The only way we can get rid of this mob is show the Jewish community how bad they are or gather more votes than them, how else can we rid this council of the rot?
December 21, 2013 at 11:57 PM
Objections were lodged, yet no one attended the planning conference that Lipshutz chaired.
There are two possible explanations, neither of which reflect well on Councils verbage
1. Lipshutz chairing
2. Objectors believed the rhetoric that their appearance was irrelevant since their written objections would be considered.
Now we get Lipshutz disclaiming objectors for non-appearance – which automaticaly shoots down point two above and point one still remains.
Any Councillor worth his or her salt would have to wonder why?. But none did which leads to another question of why?
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December 22, 2013 at 9:42 PM
Readers should note the following fascinating ‘admission’ that is taken verbatim from the Records of Assembly ( 30th July 2013) and located in the council minutes of 13th August 2013.
“Cr Delahunty – Merkos Women Educational Centre. Advised that she had met with representatives of the centre prior to this meeting and they were requesting that Council not take enforcement action against the centre”.
December 24, 2013 at 1:23 AM
Every planning conference cr Lipshutz has attended as chaier poerson, or as a cr. to learn facts he has always closede the conference early or left withn half an hour of the meeting starting … so how does he ever learn the facts which residents express. May be the East St Kilda residents have already learned how futile it is when one has the simple interests of wanting a simple neighbourhood street when in the past this group has made any application,.. I rmeember hearing Cr. Lipshutz saying that the synaqgogue near St albins grove would have limited numbers and dates. Have never heard his reports regarding the useage of this dead end street area.