We’ve broken discussion on this item into 2 parts due to its length.
Hyams, Lipshutz and Esakoff declared an ‘indirect conflict of interest’. Magee moved an alternate ‘motion/recommendation’ apart from ‘noting the report’. Also included was that the Minister for Crown Lands be approached and asked to ‘take over’ lease negotiations with the MRC; for the Valuer General to review the leases ‘before it gets signed’ and to complete a ‘review of all current leases’. Magee also asked for a ‘review’ of the landswap and that the Auditor General ‘conduct an audit performance’. He also wanted government to go back to the Select Committee Review and consider their recommendations. Delahunty seconded.
MAGEE: said the issue was ‘complex’ and that he’d been a trustee, chairman of the trustees and also on the lease committee. Stated that he’s a ‘hoarder’ and kept a lot of information. This was a ‘serious’ matter and wanted a ‘serious’ response from minister and government. The Trustees are about to ‘enter’ into a 21 year lease with the MRC and ‘that’s fine’ but ‘when you look at’ history’, ‘makeup’ and ‘track record’ of the Trustees then it isn’t fine because since some of the trustees are members of the MRC then they are ‘adjudicating on a lease to themselves’. He also thought that ‘at least 2 other members’ belong to the MRC. This makes him think that there is some conflict of interest. Quoted from the minutes of a Trustee meeting from 2011 where (reading) it said that Magee raised the issue of conflict of interest and the resolution was that ‘advice’ be sought from the Government Solicitor. They got an answer and Magee quoted again and paraphrased from the long letter that ‘the public can reasonably form the view that conflict exists’. Also mention of ‘improper influences’.
Went on to say that the current chairman also tabled documents at meetings that ‘he believes’ that there was a conflict of interest with the MRC members. The chairman (Greg Sword) ‘also sits on the lease committee’. So even though they ‘know’ there is a conflict of interest ‘the process continues’.
Stated that the trustees do include ‘experienced’ and ‘decent’ people. Referred to the landswap from 2009 of the ‘Tabaret carpark’ and the land at the end of Glen Eira Road was part of the deal. The Trustees ‘might have’ thought this was a ‘good deal’ and voted for it.
AT THIS POINT PILLING SAID THAT MAGEE HAD ‘REACHED’ HIS FIVE MINUTES. MAGEE ASKED FOR AN ‘EXTENSION OF TEN MINUTES’. Pilling said that he would give Magee 2 minutes. Magee said that after all these years, this is ‘a very serious issue’ and wasn’t happy with 2 minutes. Also said that he thought it was ‘incumbent on me to explain’ all the information that he’s got. Pilling then stated that he was worried about other councillors getting a say. Delahunty then moved that Magee gets a 10 minute extension. This was seconded by Lobo. Put to the vote and PILLING USED HIS CASTING VOTE TO DEFEAT THE MOTION. VOTING FOR: Lobo, Magee, Delahunty. Against: Okotel, Sounness and Pilling. (Mutterings from the gallery at this point!)
Magee then continued for a lesser time allocation after Delahunty moved another motion.
MAGEE: quoted again from the minutes relating to the landswap where he raised the issue of the ‘status’ of the landswap and whether it would be ‘returned to the Crown’. Said that this means that the Trustees ‘had no idea what they were voting for’ and that they were ‘giving away 8500’ sq metres and they ‘got back nothing’. The trustees job is to ‘protect the reserve’ and all they’ve done is to ‘give away 8500 square metres’. Magee then read from the minutes his question as to whether the landswap or any part of it was to ‘become part of the reserve’ and whether they knew. ‘No’ was the answer. Magee then asked the rhetorical question about how they could be responsible for land that they ‘gave away’ without even knowing they’d given it away. Also asked what they thought at the time and what advice they’d been given and which of the trustees who voted for and against the landswap. Magee said that he asked this 3 times wanting to see the minutes of these meetings. THEY COULDN’T FIND THE MINUTES – ‘THE MINUTES HAD BEEN LOST’. So here’s a ‘group’ about to sign a 21 year lease for a 2 billion dollar asset and they can’t even do the proper paperwork. Magee then cited 2010 minutes on ‘2 leases’ where there hadn’t been ‘any advice on what the value was’. These leases and the relevant paperwork also ‘couldn’t be located’ he read from the minutes. Amazingly the trustees end up asking the ‘person they leased it to, to give them a copy’. The lease for Aquinita Lodge to the Freeman Brothers was also incapable of ‘being located by the Trust’. Said that the Trustees ‘are not capable’ of administering the reserve and ‘doing the right thing’.
Said that when he became chairman the first question he asked was ‘what is the racecourse worth?’ They asked the Valuer General who recommended a certain company who has done leases for big sites like Southbank etc.Magee then itemised some of the leases – ie Grandstand – $45,000pa.
Pilling then told Magee that his 5 mintues are up and that he should ‘consider other councillors’ and that he’s got the 3 minute summation time ‘at the end’. Magee said he would be ‘as quick as I can’. Delahunty then moved that Magee be given 2 minutes extension. Seconded by Lobo. This time only Okotel and Pilling voted against.
March 19, 2014 at 7:19 PM
Pilling, Okotel and Sounnes at the start anyway need to have a good hard look at themselves and make up their minds if they are there to work for residents or for some behind the scenes people. How totally disgraceful that Pilling can use his casting vote to gag discussion on an issue that is so important and led to the C60 in the first place. On second thoughts that’s maybe why he wanted to shut Magee up or stop him from saying too much.
March 19, 2014 at 8:38 PM
I liken Neil Pilling to a Granny Smith apple. He is green on the outside and white in the middle. Clearly Lipshutz, Hyams and Esakoff worded him up on what he should do if he wants to stay part of the gang. He is now an embarrassment to the Greens and should just leave the party before he gets chucked out.
March 19, 2014 at 10:06 PM
A complete and utter indictment of the trustees, the mrc members and council. Papers don’t disappear unless they are made to conveniently disappear is the first point. Knowing that there’s a conflict of interest and not doing anything about it verges on the criminal. That the government can sit back knowing full well what is going on is another black mark against all political parties. Last but certainly not least there’s council and the actions of Pilling and Okotel in particular. That is completely unforgiveable.
March 19, 2014 at 10:21 PM
Anyone else smell a gigantic stinking rat in all this, or is it me? Magee tells everyone that the valuer general recommended some other valuers instead of doing the job himself for the whole racecourse. That’s government crown land and his job is to be an independent valuer of government land. He knocks it back. Okay, perhaps he was busy. I don’t buy that when we have the same busy bloke doing the work for a pocket size piece of land that went for $140000 once the C60 had been approved and this tiny bit of dirt was essential for the Caulfield Village to go ahead. Too busy for 2 billion but not busy enough for $140000. Come off it!
March 19, 2014 at 10:48 PM
Greens party is nothing but ashes in Glen Eira. Thanks to the Green Councillors. The party should cut their losses.
March 19, 2014 at 11:14 PM
Great credit to Magee and Delahunty for pushing this.
March 19, 2014 at 11:54 PM
At the time of the infamous C60 someone said
“THE STINK ISN’T FROM HORSE MANURE”
The real shame is that 3 years on the stink keeps growing.
March 20, 2014 at 12:22 AM
Th Greens party members mustr take immediate action to remove the two non-green male councillors from their ranks.
The mayor and his other rep. (being actually from the Camden EWard) are unfit to rperesent residents. Their efforts in attempting to stiffle dbetae regarding this issue only shows ho distant they are away from Green party policy. Maybe that mayor was trying to shut Cr. Magee’s mouth so he would not be reminded that he as one of the four special commitee decision makers approved the MRC application without ammendment on March 17 2011 in about three minutes.
March 20, 2014 at 7:58 AM
Wonder why Magee thinks it’s complex – it’s a straight forward case of the MRC receiving huge secret subsidies from the public purse because of inadequate management or supervision.
Good on Magee for bringing it out into the open.
March 20, 2014 at 9:06 AM
Good work Cr Delahunty and Cr Magee, and well done Cr Magee you spoke very well on 774.
March 20, 2014 at 3:47 PM
“THEY COULDN’T FIND THE MINUTES – ‘THE MINUTES HAD BEEN LOST”. They couldn’t find the minutes? Where is that petition for the royal commission I need to sing it?
March 20, 2014 at 8:28 PM
Pilling you are a disgrace to the Greens, enjoy being part of the Gang while it lasts!