Another two instances reveal what a joke Council Minutes are turning into. The (infamous) Lipshutz Right of Reply fails to include his little ‘addendum’ that was not in the printed agenda version. This in itself calls into question council’s Local Law since it specifies that all rights of reply have to be published in the agenda. Lipshutz’s concluding paragraph (relating the experience of a relative under Nazism) was not in the agenda. This was an ‘add on’ and has now been left out of the draft minutes.
The far more important omission from the minutes relates to a public question where a resident asked why previous minutes did not include the Delahunty phrase ‘be provided’. By excluding this phrase, the administration is not ORDERED to produce the vital traffic management studies on surrounding streets to the Caulfield Village Development. The fact that time and again councillors sit in silence and accept the distortion of history without a whimper should give residents an insight into the machinations that occur in this council and the integrity of those who sit in chambers.
Below are a selection of these public questions and their non-answers.
Question – On December 17th 2013 Cr Delahunty stated that Council had undertaken some ‘recent’ traffic studies on Queen’s Avenue, Eskdale Road and the surrounds of Sir John Monash Drive. I ask:
(1) Why have these studies not been placed in the public domain so that residents may be privy to all relevant information that could help inform their submissions to the MRC Development Plan?
(2) Why have the minutes of this December 17th meeting not included Delahunty’s words that the studies be ‘provided’ – presumably to councillors and potentially the public?
(3) Have councillors been ‘provided’ with hard copies of these studies? If so, when?
(4) Have councillors been ‘provided’ with verbal reports of these studies? If so, when?”
Response –
1. Generally ‘traffic studies’ are undertaken by Council on an ongoing basis. Detailed traffic studies have been (and are continuing to be) undertaken by Caulfield Village’s traffic engineers to determine the extent and appropriateness of the required traffic management works as part of Amendment C60. These studies have been placed in the public domain. In turn, Council’s traffic engineers are reviewing the traffic studies to ensure that the appropriate analysis is undertaken.
2. At the Council Meeting on 4 February 2014 Council unanimously confirmed the Minutes of the 17 December 2013 Council Meeting without any changes to the Minutes.
3. Councillors were provided with written advice in January 2014 that provided information about the Queens Avenue / Normanby Road intersection, the Queens Avenue / Sir John Monash Drive roundabout, Eskdale Road and pedestrian conditions in Queens Avenue.
4. I refer you to 3 above.”
COMMENT
It should be carefully noted that ‘reviewing’ the MRC’s traffic studies is not what Delahunty requested. Secondly ‘written advice’ is not the same as providing councillors with the hard copy studies themselves. It is more than likely that it is a short memo crafted by the admin. We further believe that no councillor has as yet clapped eyes on the traffic studies.
Question – In 2011 Council rejected C60 Panel’s view that there shouldn’t be preferred maximum height limits near Monash University. On 10 October 2013 Council voted not to oppose the changes sought by the developer through Ministerial Amendment C111, to the Glen Eira Planning Scheme and the Caulfield Mixed Use Incorporated Plan, which removed height limits from that portion of C60.
What were Council’s reasons for supporting the removal of height limits from a portion of the precinct, and what were Council’s reasons for deciding to exempt balconies when assessing fit with the specified building envelope, which makes it inconsistent with the rest of the Planning Scheme, and why were the details of the changes being sought not included in the Agenda or Minutes? Was Council misled about the extent of the changes that it voted on and ultimately supported?
Response –
Council officers identified what was a DTPLI’s error with respect to the Smith Street height limits in the approved documentation for Amendment C111. The height limit was not proposed to be altered by Council under Amendment C111. The DTPLI has acknowledged its error and is currently in the process of reinstating the height limit within the Smith Street precinct to reflect the maximum height limit of 120m AHD (typically 20 storeys).
With respect to balcony projections, it is common for minor building intrusions to be disregarded in setback distances prescribed. The State Government’s Rescode specifically states that verandahs, porches, pergolas and eaves are allowable encroachments. It is noted that if Council is not ultimately happy with the extent of any balcony intrusions, it can either condition a development plan to alter or remove the intrusions or refuse the development plan outright.
COMMENT
Another example of the incompetence of both Council and the Department as we have previously commented. More importantly, the reference to ResCode is quite laughable and designed to camouflage the truth since ResCode does not apply to buildings of this proposed height. Add to this that to the best of our knowledge there is nothing in the MRC’s plans which indicate the EXTENT OF INTRUSION in the ‘sacrosanct’ set backs, nor is this spelt out in the officer’s report, and we have before us in this response the biggest con job of all time.
From the in camera items we have this notice:
Crs Lipshutz/Magee
Note that the proceedings brought by Council have been settled by the payment to Council of $2,000,000.00 and that this part of the resolution be incorporated in the public Minutes of this Meeting.
The MOTION was put and CARRIED unanimously.
COMMENT
This really does not tell us a thing since:
1. Council was still with-holding close to $2M from the original contract
2. It does not state who is paying for lawyers
3. Nor does it tell us if any penalties were applied
4. Nor does it tell us if the counter claim by Hansen and Yuncken is still going ahead
PS: And to completely shatter the myth of a ‘united’ councillor group here is the Lobo gem taken from the minutes –
Cr Lobo: “I foreshadow a right of reply at the next Council Meeting.
Cr Lipshutz is yet to apologise to me for asking me in writing if my previous employers in Middle East and I were involved in terrorism and then dismissing the written words as innocuous, a word he has used again in tonight’s
meeting.
When Councillor Lipshutz apologies to me in writing then he might be in a position to lecture on appropriate behaviour to the friends of Caulfield.
February 27, 2014 at 12:28 PM
Good on you Oscar, about time somebody stood up to this law to himself Lipshutz, he must apologize to you for those “Terrorism” comments especially since he was on an anti discrimination group. Why doesn’t the Mayor pull him into line Oscar?
February 28, 2014 at 6:00 PM
The Mayor is witnessing for himself from the Top. He will using his microscope.
February 27, 2014 at 2:37 PM
A common characteristic of Council’s responses to Public Questions is that if they’re uncomfortable with the question they refuse to answer it. A question like “Why have the minutes of this December 17th meeting not included Delahunty’s words that the studies be ‘provided’” seeks an explanation. Instead, we get a response that merely reiterates the Minutes cannot be relied upon to be an accurate record. Apparently it is a less common meaning of “confirmation” that is used here, a delightfully ironic reference to a rite involving people who have been baptized.
I also notice that Local Law conflicts with LGA about Minutes. LGA requires Minutes to be submitted to the next appropriate meeting of Council; whereas Local Law requires them to go to the next ordinary meeting of Council—no discussion of appropriateness. Since no councillor can be relied upon to do Due Diligence on the Minutes, a new Local Law appears to be required: that Minutes only be submitted at meetings where all Councillors are present, or at a minimum, those Councillors who moved motions in the Minutes concerned. That would at least give some meaning to the word “appropriate”, and reduce the risk of deliberate manipulation of the public record. I’m surprised Council didn’t seek input from Paul Burke and his recordings to correct the record.
February 27, 2014 at 4:13 PM
If traffic studies are “continuing to be” undertaken by the “experts” from the MRC then what’s in the development plan mightn’t be worth a cracker. But council is supposed to decide on the basis of this plan.
I keep wondering why we are paying a fortune for our planning and traffic bozos when all they do is rely on developer studies and don’t even let councillors get a look in.
February 27, 2014 at 9:03 PM
When the f*ck are the MRC going to get it right – they are required to give 10 days notice to local residents of road closures to be enacted for special racing and racing course events.
Today 27/.2/2014 they notified residents of the road closures for the Caravan and Camping show – starts 5/3 – the advertising signs were put up days ago.
This now makes it a hat-trick failure to advise for Caravan and Camping Show.
Oh and by the way, the MRC probably forgot to send one to Tennix, Council’s outsourced parking department. Yet again it will be up to residents to complain when parking in restricted times zones gets beyond endurance – far be it from either Council or the MRC or Tennix to be pro-active
February 27, 2014 at 10:04 PM
Hope it doesn’t go up early as it was quite frightening last year when the garbage man couldm’t turn ands left the district by way of about a 40kph blind reverse!
February 27, 2014 at 10:23 PM
I’ve lost count how many times this website has shown the inaccuracy of minutes. To my mind the far greater crime is that not one single councillor addresses and demands a correction of these official records. A simple check of council’s audio recordings of these minutes should be enough to correct any errors and to set the records straight. Councillors unwillingness to do this can only mean that they are fully complicit in the deceit of the public.
February 28, 2014 at 8:06 AM
Admirable suggestion D. Evans – except that … towards the end of Penhalluriack’s councillorship such a dispute arose in an open Council Meeting between Paul Burke and Penhalluriack.
It related to the accurracy of the minutes and a motion Pehalluriack had moved at the previous meeting. To settle the dispute Penhalluriack asked that the tape of the meeting be provided. Paul Burke’s response was that he would need “to take the request under advisement”.
“under advisement”!!!!!! – the recording of an open Council meeting!!!! to resolve an issue on the accuracy of the Minutes!!!!!! as to what the Cr. making the request said!!!!!!.
Needless to say all other Councillors present adopted their well practiced “stunned mullet” pose
February 28, 2014 at 12:46 AM
The victors always tell the story according to them! As in the case of Eureka. One day we will all rise up in disgust and they will run!
February 28, 2014 at 10:49 AM
Didn’t Lobo stand up last year in the chambers and questioned the accuracy of the minutes of assembly. Lipshutz and Hyams were like Quick Draw McGraw and said “Cr Lobo does not know” that minutes need to be brief? This is manipulation at the cost of residents.
February 28, 2014 at 12:19 PM
https://gleneira.wordpress.com/2013/12/18/rewriting-history-again-again/
Several councillors misbehaved in that meeting, which I commented upon at the time. AFAIK Cr Hyams never apologised to Cr Lobo after failing to identify any possible breach of law. The Mayor was intimidated into upholding a Point of Order without any factual basis, and then failed to give his reasons. It’s not good enough that some councillors invent sections of LGA to suit their political purposes.
FWIW there is nothing in LGA that requires Minutes to be brief. To the contrary, there are requirements about what the Minutes must at a minimum contain. While LGA and Local Law don’t require Minutes to be accurate, there is a section in Councillors Code of Conduct under Community Engagement stating “information concerning adopted policies, procedures and decisions of the Council must be communicated accurately”.
February 28, 2014 at 2:11 PM
According to the Macquarie Dictionary… the Minutes are a written, summary, memorandum, the official record,record of the proceedings at a meeting of a society, board, committee, or COUNCIL.
Taken as this is our accepted word for such details there is no optionbut to include ALL DETAILS ACCURATELY and to fail in this regard means all is a waste of time no matter how glossily they are presented if the truth is dabbled with.
March 3, 2014 at 10:49 AM
There will be no right of reply at the next Council Meeting from Lobo, he is a phony lots of noise no action.
March 4, 2014 at 8:20 AM
You are a sick man. Go get help.