The following reports come from 2 agenda items – (1) comments on the VCAT decisions, and (2) the Bent St application. We have decided for this first item to highlight some of the comments made by Magee. The reasons should be obvious!
MAGEE: said he spent the day at VCAT with residents of Claire St., McKinnon and that the judgement shows that VCAT ‘does have the capacity’ to look at the Glen Eira Planning Scheme and listen to what the residents of Glen Eira ‘have said they want in the area’. The Planning Scheme has ‘been put together over many years with vast community consultation’ (sniggers and jeers from the gallery). Said he represents the 140,000 people and not the few who claim to do so. Continued that the planning scheme was voted on by all councillors. It then ‘went to the Minister’ who approved it. After doing ‘so much work, we know what our residents wanted’ and ‘that’s what our planning scheme actually says’. With the new zones, Claire Street has height limits and the developer got it wrong by wanting to ‘build almost fence to fence’. ‘He had scant disregard for our planning scheme’. The VCAT member ‘applied our planning scheme’ – he applied ‘what we as a council’ and what ‘we as residents have said is appropriate to Glen Eira’. Every council has a scheme but that sits on what councillors and ‘residents think is appropriate’ for that municipality. The member ‘applied our planning scheme’ and ‘when he did, this building did not fit’. And when he applied the rules that ‘residents put to us that they wanted, it did not fit’. Said that unfortunately not all VCAT members are as ‘educated’ as this member and not all of them ‘do their homework’ nor ‘appreciate the level of detail we have in our planning scheme’.
Said that 97% of the municipality has got height limits and 3% commercial with no height limits. Putting height limits on commercial areas has to be done through an overlay, and then community consultation, ‘permission from the minister’, and ‘through a long and detailed process’. ‘If council decides at some point in the future’ to do this, then he would ‘welcome that’ but to do ‘that we would need legal opinion, planning opinion’ and the Minister’s approval. There are some other things that might be done with the commercial zones but he is ‘very, very happy that’ the zones ‘cover 97% of our municipality’. This ‘in conjunction with our planning scheme’ is what ‘makes it work’. When VCAT doesn’t apply the planning scheme ‘that’s when it goes wrong’ but for Claire St., they did apply it.
COMMENT
- 97% of the municipality DOES NOT HAVE HEIGHT LIMITS!
- Mixed Use Zones (apart from 2 specific sites) DO NOT HAVE HEIGHT LIMITS. No mention of course about this little fact
- Once you remove parkland, VicRoad land, Special Utility zones, etc from the total acreage then the percentage of land zoned commercial and mixed use is far greater than the 3% this council would like residents to believe is the truth. Also given council’s penchant for transforming sites zoned C2 (ie no residential dwellings) into C1 (allowable residential dwellings such as Virginia Estate amendment) then the percentage skyrockets even further. Then add on all the amendments which have already and are still waiting to be rezoned from ‘industrial’ land into Mixed Use or Commercial and the figures literally go much higher.
- Magee is obviously under the illusion that if you repeat something often enough people will believe you – ie ‘vast community consultation’. Perhaps he and the other councillors should ask residents whether they believe the planning scheme does in fact represent resident views?
BENT STREET APPLICATION
Before we report on the actual ‘debate’ readers need to take a look at what the zones have meant for this street and the surrounds. It is our estimate that since the zones were introduced the area has had 378 new dwellings permitted. This rivals Neerim Road’s 548 new dwellings. (click to enlarge the image)
Here is what councillors said. It took roughly 7 minutes!
Proposal 4 storey, 20 dwellings. Hyams moved motion to accept plus introducing some conditions for the street trees. Seconded by Sounness.
HYAMS: said he chaired the planning conference and that objectors’ ‘concerns’ have been ‘addressed by the officer recommendations’. This is the ‘right place for a 4 storey development’ ie next to supermarket and station and ‘sufficient’ parking. Went through some of the conditions such as increased setbacks for basement car parking to allow for landscaping. Basically read out the other conditions from the officer’s report. Thought that all of this meant a ‘reasonable compromise’.
SOUNNESS: said he is supporting the application in order to be ‘consistent with the planning scheme’ designed for the area. ‘Being part of the Bentleigh Urban Village it does have criteria’ and meets those criteria. There has also been a lot of 4 storeys surrounding this development and others higher in surrounding area given by VCAT.
LOBO: said that in 2011 ‘I predicted that Glen Eira will be like Calcutta’ and he ‘got told off’ for saying that. ‘Well the writing is on the wall’.
DELAHUNTY: said she remembers Lobo’s comments and is an ‘indication’ of what is happening in Bentleigh and ‘especially around this area’. Bent Street ‘have taken more than their fair share’. However she wanted to draw people’s attention to ‘housing affordability’ and the high cost of renting. A report came out showing that some families spend up to 50% of their income on rent. So they need more development and then the rental will drop because more development ‘will push the prices down’ for ‘people to be able to live around infrastructure’. Thought that Lobo’s values would also support the idea that people should be able to afford to live where there are good health services and ‘good infrastructure options’ and ‘Bentleigh certainly has’ those things. She ‘understands that it is a balancing act’ so will support the motion.
MOTION PUT AND CARRIED. Lobo only councillor to vote against.
November 25, 2015 at 11:32 PM
He speaks with forked tongue. One on one he will say what he thinks you want to hear. In council chamber he says what they tell him to say. Should make a great state politician together with Delahunty
November 26, 2015 at 9:01 AM
Re Bent St. Application
The above arguments of Hyams and Delahunty are appalling and consistent with an inability to see beyond their noses..
Hyams – there is enough carparking near the supermarket and station – BULLSHIT. Currently parking is at a premium, not only in the carparks but also in the surrounding residential streets. As long as Councillors like Hyams do nothing and continue to view every development in isolation the only change will be an exponential increase in parking demand and a dramatic downturn in the variety of goods and services offered on Centre Road because patronage and businesses will go elsewhere. Want proof – Koornang Road Carnegie. Lots of people around but they are all in the Eat in/Take Out joints that have replaced the butchers, clothing, shoes, gift and book shops that have closed over the last 5 years. While the food joints are choccers, the few survivors are pretty much empty of customers and clearly on the endangered species list.
Delahunty – fabulous argument, lets build more to drive the prices down. Providing affordable housing has merit but simply plonking more apartments in specific areas while Council ignores its infra-structure responsibilities (eg. traffic, parking, openspace etc) is not the way to do it. Creating affordable housing at the expense of livability for both current and future residents is not planning.
November 26, 2015 at 9:01 AM
Housing affordability is important but not at any cost. Creating a glut of apartments and ruining residential amenity like in Bent street so that rents will drop is a crazy argument. Forcing people to move so that others can rent cheaper is also a crazy argument. Anyway I don’t see too many affordable places in Glen Eira and not even a policy about creating affordable homes. C60 got voted through without such places when they were supposed to provide them. All cheap talk and hot air while developers have a field day. Good job Delahunty.
November 26, 2015 at 11:47 AM
They’ve stuffed up Bent so now the move is into Vickery and then the next one along.
November 26, 2015 at 1:00 PM
FYI – particularly the figures for Carnegie, Bentleigh and Bentleigh East
http://www.domain.com.au/news/the-councils-with-the-most-objections-at-vcat-20151125-gl7mwu/
November 26, 2015 at 4:11 PM
A 91% increase in vcat appeals refutes the argument that the zones brought in certainty for both developers and residents. If the zones truly brought in certainty then you should expect less vcat appeals because developers would know that they couldn’t build. What the zones have said is come on in and build to your heart’s content and we will pretend we are looking out for our residents by knocking back applications so you can get them up at vcat cos we’ve got it all tied up in our fantastic planning scheme that will help you out.
November 26, 2015 at 5:08 PM
Cr Magee does NOT represent me. Apparently no councillor does. Only some zones have “height limits” [along with a bunch of exemptions to height limits], less than 83% of the municipality. It should be unacceptable for any councillor to lie or fail to do due diligence. The planning scheme is a mess. It lacks strategic work, is riddled with inconsistencies, has typos, relies on obsolete data from decades ago.
The scheme doesn’t reflect community consultation either. We’re not getting housing diversity, only 1- and 2-bedroom apartments. Many of those apartments have no public open space within safe convenient walking distance to compensate. Council doesn’t take open space seriously. It claims you are well-served if within 2.5km of open space. So much for proximity. Council grants permits for developments that fail to comply with ResCode. It does so without alternative design solutions. It is as guilty as VCAT for failing to apply its scheme.
There is an implicit assumption that being close to a railway station is all that is required to ignore parking. Bullshit. Both endpoints of a journey need to be considered. As Glen Eira eliminates employment within the municipality people have to travel further for work. Parking cars on streets makes them less safe and discourages cycling. Offsite parking is needed. We don’t have parking precinct plans. We don’t have decent car-sharing arrangements active in Glen Eira. We do have areas that suffer from extreme congestion, to use GECC’s own words, but no plans to alleviate the congestion, just to make it worse. Current policies aren’t sustainable.
Worst of all, we don’t have a Council that conducts itself in accordance with the Local Government Act, Local Law and Councillor’s Code of Conduct. They go out of their way to avoid transparency and accountability. They are duplicitous. They are unethical. They are deceitful. They lack a higher moral purpose in their decision-making. These are based on evidence, not wild claims.
November 26, 2015 at 6:06 PM
Couldn’t put it better myself. You’ve summed up this mob perfectly.
November 27, 2015 at 9:34 AM
Reprobate, Cr. M. Lipshutz provided a classic example of all that you are talking about with regards Councillors standards of representation, adherence to legalities and due diligence.
Lipshutz, a Councillor since 2005 and who has included opposition to over development in all his election campaigns (ie. 2005, 2008 and 2012), stated he didn’t know what over development was.
Pretty astounding, when a basic, widely accepted definition of over development is providing for population growth by targetting specific areas for higher density development without providing the infra-structure required to support and maintain the livability and sustainability of the targetted area. Short, simple and unambiguous and at a Council level, provision of infrastructure means urban planning considers cummulative impacts and provides for incremental changes being implemented (eg. in urban planning, traffic and parking management, open space provision and draingage etc). However, since 2002, when the Housing Diversity/Minimal Change Areas introduced the concept of targeted areas, Council has abyssmally failed to provide the necessary infrastructure (incrementally or otherwise).
Anyways, Lipshutz then went on to say that undertaking planning reforms without knowing what Council was aiming for was a waste of ratepayers money (a figure of $100,000 was plucked from the air) and therefore Council should continue just doing what we have always done. In this, he was supported by all Councillors, except perhaps Lobo.
Now while I have no problem with Council finally acting in a fiscally responsible manner or the need for a defined goal, I have to wonder why, when the evidence of the need for change to planning reform is in plain sight and is supported by
. the pace and type of development occurring vs. Councils provision of the infra structure that it is responsible to provide
. the Minister’s letter which Council insists on misinterpreting
. countless VCAT decisions pointing out the inadequacies of the Glen Eira planning scheme
. the content of written objections lodged and verbally expressed at planning conferences
. the resident outcry re planning deficiencies and what they are creating.
when Council is going to remove its head from the bucket of sand.
Like many others, I am questioning the quality representation provided by the current incumbents. Things are seriously amiss, when the residents deafening outcry is ignored by Councillors who have decided we don’t know what we are talking about and what we want will involve spending our money.
$14,300 on the infamous 11c flyer (which denies any responsibility) and nothing on giving the community an opportunity to present it’s case to Council via an open and transparent public Forum pretty much says all that required to be said about representation in Glen Eira.
November 26, 2015 at 5:32 PM
This has always been about Libs and Labs opening the floodgates for their developers mates and skimming donations into their coffers. Just listen to both of them, Andrews and Guys singing off the song sheet this morning on developers donation to political parties.
The Greens are the only partly calling for a ban on developer donations.
This maybe a reason why Pilling jumped ship from the Greens to the Liberal party