Phase 2 of the ‘consultation’ for the Virginia Estate development has been announced.
Feb – 11 – 2016 9:26 am Community drop in events announced
The owners of the East Village precinct have announced the first round of community drop-in events as part of consultation on the development of a 20 year masterplan for the Bentleigh East industrial area.
Three sessions are open to all residents and interested parties:
Tuesday 23rd February from 6.30pm to 8.30pm
Wednesday 24th February from 6.30pm to 8.30pm
Saturday 27th February 2pm to 4pm
All sessions will be held at 18 North Drive, 236-262 East Boundary Road, Bentleigh East.
Read our media release for more information.
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The Level Crossings authority dates are as follows –
Hughesdale Saturday 13 February, 1:30pm – 4:30pm Hughesdale Community Centre, 160 Poath Road Hughesdale
Murrumbeena Tuesday 16 February, 5:00pm – 8:00pm Murrumbeena Pavilion, 28 Gerald Street Murrumbeena
Carnegie Tuesday 23 February, 5:00pm – 8:00pm Boyd Room, Carnegie Community Centre, 7 Shepparson Avenue Carnegie
Hughesdale Thursday 25 February, 9:00am – 12:00pm Hughesdale Community Centre, 160 Poath Road, Hughesdale
Clayton Saturday 27 February, 9:00am – 12:00pm Clayton Community Centre, 9-1 5 Cooke Street, Clayton
Murrumbeena Thursday 3 March, 5:00pm – 8:00pm Murrumbeena Pavilion, 28 Gerald Street Murrumbeena
Carnegie Saturday 5 March, 9:00am – 12:00pm, Boyd Room, Carnegie Community Centre, 7 Shepparson Avenue Carnegie
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A great shame that Council with its multitude of staff devoted to ‘community liaison’ and ‘public relations’ cannot have anything up on its website that informs residents of these important events – unlike other councils of course. All you will find is this, dating from August 2015 – http://www.gleneira.vic.gov.au/Council/News-and-media/Latest-news/Level-crossing-removals-in-Glen-Eira
February 13, 2016 at 7:01 PM
Very long queues and long waits at Hughesdale rail crossing removal feedback forum this afternoon …. inside was very crowded and very noisy … sweltering hot with the cram ….. just about impossible to talk with any of the PR Reps …… the simple plans on display show large multi-story car parks straddling the line at Carnegie and the Hughesdale station moved over Poath Road to the end of the reserve near the scout hall …. It looks like the proposed elevated rail will be built either side of the existing rail lines where possible as to keep the trains operating whilst the overhead bits are being constructed …… meaning the elevated sections maybe closer to homes than need be, or are now …. there where lot of No Sky Rail poster sticker plastered on everything everywhere ….. it was a bit of a waste of time and effort.
February 13, 2016 at 7:23 PM
Maybe what they should do is high a big air conditioned auditorioum then do their presentation and then let people ask questions. Think it would also be a good idea if this was videotaped and then put up online so people could listen to the questions and the answers.
February 14, 2016 at 8:26 AM
Another Age article on sky rail –
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/daniel-andrews-is-messing-up-the-politics-of-transport-20160211-gms5ra.html
February 14, 2016 at 10:49 AM
More from the Age – this time on skyrail for Frankston line –
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/sky-rail-government-wont-rule-out-elevated-rail-on-frankston-train-line-20160212-gmt7rd.html
February 14, 2016 at 9:25 AM
From the comments in response to The Age article, it is clear that the public don’t judge projects on data or evidence, and that politicians therefore don’t see a need to publish information either. My MP urged me to attend an “information” session, but didn’t say why they would done any better than previous efforts…crowded, noisy, lacking detail, with nobody in attendance that can answer key questions. LXRA should be publishing information on its website but hasn’t. It is however advertising to expand its “Communications and Stakeholder Relations” team. If no information has been published then there is nothing to communicate.
February 14, 2016 at 9:30 AM
Consultation is bulls##t. They get a crowd of people and explain what they have in mind. There will be no alternative proposals. People ask questions naively thinking they have the power to make the government make changes.
In the end the Government does what it had planned from the start. They have factored in the political hit well before they made any announcement. The consultation part is just a waste of time. They reckon the happy motorists that will not be waiting for boom gates to come up will out number the disgruntled home owners. This is “real politik”
February 14, 2016 at 1:37 PM
Governments can only operate unaccountably if the public permits them, primarily through lack of interest. Failing to achieve lasting improvement in governance isn’t itself sufficient reason not to try.
February 14, 2016 at 1:59 PM
One of the soundbites Jacinta and her cronies have been uttering is that the skyrail project will “create 11 MCGs worth of new open space”. An MCG is an unusual measure of open space and I checked Glen Eira’s Open Space Strategy. It preferred the more conventional measure, hectares. There were only two references to MCG: McGowan Avenue and Rob McGauran. Does Jacinta’s reference to MCG refer to the playing surface [~1.77ha] or does it include the grandstands [~5.98ha]? The grandstands might be more appropriate since they are large concrete structures.
Can cricket, or any sport for that matter, be played on the “new” space with concrete pillars and concrete beams 5m overhead? What is the size of the canopy any planted trees will provide compared to the mature eucalypts and other trees being removed? If the government suddenly believes in open space and tree planting, it has the Caulfield Racecourse Reserve where it can demonstrate its new-found enthusiam. The limited details published show a new station, a commercial development opportunity, and a carpark around Carnegie station precinct, replacing the limited existing open space on railway land. Under the planning system politicians have imposed on us, open space simply isn’t considered important.
February 14, 2016 at 8:00 PM
Twitter and Facebook are in meltdown over sky rail. I’ve had a look at some of them and would love to close them all down. They are either liberal or labor fronts and many of the comments are plain wrong. Even Lipshutz has taken to twitter with a vengeance these past few days and the guff that he has put up to support the liberal cause is sickening. Here’s the link https://twitter.com/mlipshutz. The best part is when he is on about gesac and how council “took the community with them”. I’d like to know how much consultation they did when they spent a fortune on halving the park and turning it into a car park after they had such a fabulous business plan that didn’t even know how many car parks were necessary. Then the second time around when they took away a lot more open space and trees to turn Gardeners road into another car park for gesac. That is really taking the community with them when there was no consultation no design and no forward planning. Glen Eira and Lipshutz does not care one iota about open space, trees and proper consultation.
February 14, 2016 at 10:15 PM
Oh deary me. How short the memory is. When Lipshutz talks of Glen Eira’s examplar consultation processes a gigantic guffaw should accompany every word. I will enumerate –
1. conservatory
2. tree register
3. residential zones
4. carbon neutrality
How’s that for starters?
February 14, 2016 at 9:39 PM
Out of memory the residents were happy to see Carnegie and Bentleigh pools upgraded to stop them leaking and modernise their run down facilities, which was estimated at around a few million dollars each, instead we were railroaded into a 60 million dollar money eater called GESAC by the likes of that red neck sporting mad Mr Maggo and the spendthrift bureaucrats. There hidden in the detail of CESAC and Duncan McKinnon pavilion may be the reasons why Newton high-tailed it of GE, not even mid term of his 5 year contract.
February 15, 2016 at 11:12 AM
A long ‘debate’ but certainly worth listening to –