There was a very, very good turnout at tonight’s forum. We estimate approximately 85-90 residents. Also in attendance was Mr Steve Dunn acting CEO of the VPA (Victorian Planning Authority) and some of his colleagues.
The evening was again facilitated by Ms Nathan. Following her introduction which assured residents that nothing was ‘set in concrete’ and that everything was on the table, Aiden Mullen from council presented the results of the previous survey and council’s plans for further community input. This was followed by Mr Dunn’s presentation where he outlined the role of the Victorian Planning Authority and also provided overheads of the work they have done thus far – eg. several projects in Bundoora (3000 dwellings on a 104 hectare site and another one (Polaris) which has 1100 dwellings on 12 hectares). Interestingly all the slides of development presented by both Mr Mullen and Mr Dunn did not show any buildings of higher than 4 or 5 storeys for the latter and 3 storeys by council!
The audience was then asked to discuss at their tables the ‘vision statement’ and to answer the following questions:
VISION STATEMENT – East Village will be a thriving, mixed use precinct with a focus on employment, innovation, education and housing affordability
THE QUESTIONS – Do you agree with the vision? How would you change it? What would the table’s vision be? (10 minutes).
What are the tables 3 priorities to include in the structure plan in order to achieve this vision? And how?
RESPONSES
Each table then reported back to the entire audience on their discussions. We summarise the major points below:
- Problem with language – people did not know what ‘innovation’ referred to – far too vague.
- More clarity required about the term ‘affordable housing’ and this should be changed to ‘diversity of housing’
- Questions about what ‘village’ means and is this a ‘village’
- Traffic and car parking are major problems
- Desire for low rise townhouses. Some tables nominated a maximum height limit of 3 storeys and others up to 6 storeys.
- Diverse views on the need for another school and whether this should be part of McKinnon High or another new school entirely.
- Open space that wasn’t covered over in concrete
- A new supermarket required but also not a threat to other existing businesses in the area.
- No waiving of car parking spots
- Environmental sustainability across the entire centre including flood mitigation
COMMENTS
How useful an evening like this has been remains to be seen of course. It will largely depend on how many of the above comments find their way into the final structure plan. In other words to what extent is government, council and the developer listening to the locals? Will we have maximum height limits of 3, 4, or 5 storeys? Will we have open space that is more than a ‘village square’ surrounded by high rise? Will we have 2, 3, or 4000 apartments and only a handful will be categorised as ‘affordable/social housing’? Will the traffic mayhem of North and East Boundary Roads be fixed by appropriate infrastructure? Will an entire new school really happen and how big will it be? Will retail offer fair dinkum employment opportunities or are we going to get employment as slave labour (ie kids) working for McDonalds and supermarket check out staff? What carrots will be dangled in front of major companies to come to Virginia Estate and will this cost ratepayers anything? What is the appropriate percentage mix of retail, to housing, to industry/offices – 50/50? 70/30? Who decides – the market, council, state government?
There are literally a myriad of unanswered questions and in our view a vision statement as presented above does not clarify anything. The questions that go with the vision statement are also far from ‘objective’. They are there to simply endorse the ‘vision’ rather than to really elicit knowledgeable commentary from residents.
PS: not one councillor was in attendance that we saw!
PPS: it has now been months since talk of establishing a ‘community reference group’ to work with council on the East Village project. Thus far – silence! Will this group eventuate and if so will it be when all the planks have already been set in stone?
May 24, 2017 at 9:41 PM
Unfortunately, so many people had opposition to affordable/ social housing. Disappointing.
May 24, 2017 at 10:09 PM
yes I agree, disappointing indeed
May 25, 2017 at 10:15 AM
Was it explained properly?
May 25, 2017 at 11:33 AM
No not really, east bentleigh is a wilderness middleclass closed minds, so a good explanation could have helped eased some minds
May 24, 2017 at 10:58 PM
A few thing got my goat:-
1/ The jobs and growth mantra, we saw it here in East Village (draft) visionary statement, and also the Glen Eira wide draft at last night’s council meeting, jobs and growth is featuring large. Since when has it been a city council’s job to put this amount effort sweat into shoring up the employment market. Statement like 80% percent of Glen Eira residents leave our city to commute to their workplace daily, therefore providing local jobs will be of a great benefit to us locals. Well maybe.
What if any control does council have over any of these final outcomes of who hires who, when and where., I personally think very little to almost none.
Is this just adopting Turnbull’s jobs and growth mantra, jobs and growth; jobs and growth, phew! give me a break from all this political speak, please!
The best way to get a job in Melbourne is, leave the country, come back with a work visa, agree to to be exploited ie.work for under the award wages and you’re in. This is reality of almost every business/shop I visit these days in Glen Eira.
2/ I attend a public form via a general invitation, and council wants to know what type of house I live in?, and what type of house I want to live in in 15 years time?
So, not only are they pretending to gather ideas and opinion they generally ignore, because they know better, they then try a fleece me of personal data as well, all this without the courtesy of even a simple explanation of why they want or need this info. I may have been more forthcoming if they had been more forthcoming.
May 25, 2017 at 2:31 PM
The numbers they gather would be useless anyway if only from 100 people. Yet, such numbers can be distorted to prove whatever they like.
May 25, 2017 at 12:29 PM
Same old points made over and over again. People don’t want huge residential development and more cars on already congested roads.
May 25, 2017 at 5:49 PM
First class questions posed. The “answers” will only come at the end of a very long drawn out process and once the developer has got his rezoning amendment through. It is really whistling in the dark which is copying Caulfield village.
May 25, 2017 at 9:17 PM
My thinking is, its going to cost many 10’s of millions to clean up the pollution from the sites industrial past. There’s acres of asbestos roofing down there, and the soil pollution is likely to be server to very server in places, with a lot of the pollution being inside the flood zone. (that’s big clean up money). A add the flood zone problems Special Building Overlay SBO requirements possibly limiting basement style car parking on a sizeable area of the site.
East Village is shaping up to have some deep problems, but nothing money cannot fix. And it certainly would hurt for the developers to grossly inflate the clean up costs either.
With these problems the developers are going to go for the max they can get in both density and in height on this site. Its will be jobs and growth and profit.
The Victorian Planning Authority (VPA) will view this pollution clean up as a big step forward for the residents and for Glen Eira and for upper Elster Creek catchment that traverse underground across this site. (A Melbourne Water Report has stated Elster Creek is Melbourne most polluted water way entering the Port Phillip Bay) 72% of Elster Creeks catchment lays within Glen Eira, the clean up is largely in Glen Eira’s hands.
To make this happen the VPA is likely to very symptomatic towards the developers problems and position. Just how big that VPA compromises will be, is the big question.