The following images are the result of an FOI application. They depict the overshadowing at the Winter Solstice for Carnegie. What is staggering about these images is:
- Residents living in these areas will resemble moles. Building after building will be in total shadow for most of the day in winter
- Despite what council promised in the following, it is clearly not so – Protect the future open space at Egan and Woorayl Streets, in accordance with Council’s Open Space Strategy, with no overshadowing for a minimum of 5 hours at the September Equinox (9am to 2pm achieved) and 3 hours at Winter Solstice (11am to 2pm achieved). (Officer’s report – 27/2/2018 – when the structure plan was voted in)
- These images have not been made available to residents by council. The FOI application did not yield any shadow diagrams for Elsternwick – yet councillors voted to go ahead with structure planning that is clearly so deficient and so contradictory to what the spin suggests.
- We also have to wonder how accurate these diagrams are – ie permits already exist for 12 and 13 storeys in Egan and Woorayl streets. What impact would these buildings have on overshadowing? Why aren’t they included in the diagrams
- The images depict 5 and 8 storeys alongside Rosstown. This is NOT what the adopted structure plan included. Hence two possibilities – council has been ‘forced’ to change its plans, or what is depicted here is once again a total work of fiction! Regardless, it is obvious that for the winter months at least, Carnegie residents might as well forget about direct sunlight for most of the day!
July 6, 2018 at 2:09 PM
This doesn’t seem to take into account the shadow of the “Skyrail”.
July 6, 2018 at 4:34 PM
Nope it doesn’t and shadow across open space all day.
July 6, 2018 at 5:21 PM
A few posts back we got a question to council about supporting Melbourne’s attempt to pay more attention to winter solstice controls. The crap answer from Torres was no answer and let’s put all our eggs into the one basket via the open space strategy. These diagrams show why council doesn’t want to work off the winter solstice. It would stop all the mega buildings. Plain and simple. This council won’t do anything that will hinder their development agenda.
July 6, 2018 at 5:26 PM
It’s either trying to say the overshadowing from Skyrail is so bad that 5, 8, and 12 storeys to the north can’t make it worse; or they don’t know what the overshadowing from skyrail looks like so are ignoring it. Whatever, the overshadowing is horrific. Little wonder Council didn’t want the public to find out. So our Councillors voted for this, or they just not consider overshadowing to be a relevant consideration when making planning decisions???
July 6, 2018 at 7:40 PM
When you vote for something before all the information is available then that’s anything but informed decision making. Our councillors need an extensive course in “evidence based decision making”. It’s very obvious that they have no idea or don’t care. They are programmed to repeat the spin without a single decent question coming out of their mouths.
July 8, 2018 at 8:27 AM
They are not stupid and know exactly what they are doing. For what, and whose gain is the question we should be asking.
July 7, 2018 at 4:18 PM
Classic move keep the residents in the dark on all levels.
As for our councillors they are either in on the deception, or are happy to be wilfully ignorant.
July 8, 2018 at 12:58 PM
As expected – https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/doubt-over-labor-vote-as-new-delahunty-gets-off-couch-for-preselection-20180707-p4zq56.html
July 8, 2018 at 4:27 PM
She’s tried before at state level.
July 8, 2018 at 8:32 PM
Will she quit the council if she is preselected or keep up her normal practice and get the ratepayers to support her efforts as she has been seen to do. i.e Babysitting. claims and collecting the full mayoral pay and only turning up one day a week.
July 9, 2018 at 9:41 AM
According to council’s councillor expenses policy, babysitting claims are legitimate.
July 10, 2018 at 9:09 AM
OK babysitting may be ok but 1 day a week for 100K. Not bad.