On its Have Your Say webpage for the Virginia Estate development, council tells us –
So far this year we have undertaken three rounds of consultation. The feedback we received for round three clearly stated that the community required more detailed information in order to provide feedback. We have listened to this feedback and the VPA has engaged independent expert consultants to provide advice on a number of topics including urban design, parks and open space, traffic, employment and drainage. (Source: http://www.haveyoursaygleneira.com.au/east-village)
According to this blurb, residents should expect:
- Comprehensive and detailed reports. The vast majority of these reports are anything but ‘comprehensive and detailed’. Further, why council couldn’t provide the documents in question on its own site instead of referring residents to the Planning Authority site via a link that requires further searching is open to question.
- That what council writes is unambiguous, accurate and transparent. It isn’t! For example the impression created is that the VPA has engaged (read ‘paid for’) consultants’ reports that are ‘objective’ and ‘independent’. Far from it. The Urban Design report on page 4 states –
MGS Architects Pty. Ltd have been engaged by The Gillon Group, Make Property Group and Abacus Property Group to develop an Urban Design Report to inform the East Village development in Bentleigh East, Victoria. (page 4)
The same is true for Environmental Conditions report –
Senversa Pty Ltd was engaged by MAKE EBRB Dev Nominee Pty Ltd. (MAKE) to prepare a summaryof environmental conditions for the proposed East Village Precinct, Bentleigh East, a 24 hectare parcel of land (with multiple titles) on the corner of East Boundary and North Roads, Bentleigh East (thePrecinct) (page 1)
Reading the Urban Design effort we find that many sections are nothing more than a regurgitation of the original Gillon propaganda, practically verbatim, that came out a few years ago. (By the way, the East Village Gillon site has suddenly disappeared!)
More importantly the VPA website doesn’t include as yet the most contentious documents – ie commercial assessment and social infrastructure. (See: https://vpa.vic.gov.au/project/east-village-strategic-site/p/east-village-key-ideas-objectives/). If these appear in December/January, then that means residents will not have had the opportunity to read, much less digest the so-called ‘information’ before this consultation concludes. Hardly an ideal situation!
As a brief overview of what we’ve gleaned thus far, please note:
- Of 400 trees reviewed on the site, only 5 are deemed to be of ‘very high value’ and only another 73 are categorised as ‘high value’. Another 150 are seen to be of ‘medium retention value’. Sadly the gate is left wide open when this evaluation is followed by – “If designing around these trees is not feasible or practical, removal and replacement would be an acceptable compromise”. Bye, bye trees!
- It is now mooted to be at least 2 supermarkets and no mention of size, capacity, etc.
- The so called traffic report only looks at the current state of affairs – not what it will be like with another 3000+ apartments and hundreds upon hundreds of additional cars clogging the roads. Readers should also take note of the photographs that are supposed to represent traffic conditions on North Road and East Boundary Road. We can only suppose that there has been some good Photoshopping, or that these images were snapped in the middle of the night or daybreak!
There is much, much more that could be said – and we will in ensuing posts. We repeat that in our view this is not consultation. Until residents are provided with realistic data that is justified, explained, and open to debate, then we are simply being lead down the garden path to an amendment that will leave little room for change and community input! It will be a mirror image of Caulfield Village – a fait accompli!
November 22, 2017 at 2:32 PM
Not our North and East Boundary roads. Must be same named ones on Mars if I’m to believe the photos
November 22, 2017 at 2:53 PM
Whose idea was this to create confusion after confusion when we have confusion on roads, traffic and parking and now blocking away small businesses in the vicinity of Virginia park?
November 22, 2017 at 2:59 PM
The Traffic report lists multiple intersections that are already at capacity and will need additional intersection capacity to cope with more traffic volumes. It also reveals that its 2 survey days both happened to be for lower volumes than its self-nominated 85th percentile target day.
Worse still, it provides single numbers for average delay and 95th percentile queue length for each intersection as a whole, regardless of traffic direction. Any time that vehicles are left with their tails in a through traffic lane because a turning lane has filled up and it is taking muliple light cycles for a vehicle to progress from the rear to the front of a queue, you know you have a major service level problem.
No solution has been proposed, other than residents and/or State Government should further subsidize Gillon’s proposal by paying for the additional infrastructure required.
November 22, 2017 at 3:45 PM
A hodge podge of meaningless papers. The guts of how many towers and how many apartments and how many will be single or double bedroom isn’t revealed. All we’re told is that up to 80% will be apartments and that’s supposed to be an estate that fosters employment.
I haven’t read all of the reports but from what I have seen this site is polluted and sitting on a huge chunk of the Elster catchment. Stick heaven knows how many towers in plus km of concrete pathways and the problem is exacerbated.
November 22, 2017 at 4:24 PM
Firstly it looks like something designed in the Soviet Union 1960’s style
There is not enough open space provided on the site to be functional, building heights are to high. Flooding issues poorly represented, pollution issues hedged or put on the back burner. Viable links to existing open space are poor.
This is a ambit claim to wring as much profit out of the site as possible. The Victorian Planning Authority looks like they have turned out to be just another bunch of conspirators batting for the developers mates.
November 22, 2017 at 6:35 PM
Called politics. Lab agenda is build and build delighting some who then generously donate to the party. Plus bentleigh is a marginal seat and the promise of a school before the election will warm the cockles of many.
November 22, 2017 at 11:42 PM
yes, possibly all to true
November 24, 2017 at 3:24 PM
The idea of building a second McKinnon School at Virginia Beast-estate is totally foolish. Zero sense. To add another 3000+ apartments and shops in the middle of nowhere is thoughtless and condemns rate payers who came for community consultations.
Labs were blaming Libs for the last 4 years but did nothing other than some patch work. People renting for 6 months to 1 year just to get into the McKinnon School are being cracked down. Once the people go with their children elsewhere, what would be the use of second school?
November 23, 2017 at 8:19 AM
frustrating for MRC. Flemington and Moonee valley released development plans but they still dont have a lease at Caulfield.
November 23, 2017 at 11:21 AM
Good luck with typing ‘Virginia Estate’ into GE Council website search – nothing.
Just read a property report dated Nov. 16 where Glen Eira and Port Phillip EACH have 1,300 unoccupied properties. GE will probably top the tally once Carnegie Station/Danenong Rd high rises, MRC development, Monash/Caulfield Station Precinct and now so called East Village, along with whatever else is “planned”.
Anyone noticed the huge congestion around the two viaducts off Dandenong Rd under the railway line into Normanby Rd, Caulfield Nth? These were built the same time as the Caulfield Station – IN 1879 – and are now dangerously inadequate!!
November 23, 2017 at 1:04 PM
Yes it sure has become busy, I pass by this area every day between 9:30 to 9:40 and the traffic has become problematic over the last year.
November 23, 2017 at 5:45 PM
The congestion was already bad and was predicted to remain bad in the 2010 C60 Panel Report. Members Alison Glynn, David Mitchell, and Ken Northwood were dismissive though. Despite 16 mentions of congestion, they thought “congestion is not so fatal as to warrant abandoning Amendment C60”. They proposed no solutions, other than expressing the pious hope that somebody would design and implement a solution in the future, possibly as part of an “integrated transport plan”. If you have no standards then you can’t fail to meet them.