A fantastic turnout at tonight’s Elsternwick Forum of at least 180 residents. And once again the anger and outrage was palpable. Councillors present were: Delahunty, Silver, Hyams, Esakoff, Athanasopolous plus CEO, McKenzie. They need to take serious note of this community response which has been mirrored by the Bentleigh and Carnegie forums!
As in Bentleigh one resident got up and asked people to put up their hands if they were happy with 12 storeys in Elsternwick. Not one hand went up. She then asked if people would be satisfied with 4 storeys? Most hands went up. This mirrors what happened at Bentleigh.
Yet throughout all of this ‘consultation’ the constant response from Mullen (and therefore presumably council) has been to avoid answering the most basic questions:
- What is the strategic justification and the data that supports 12 storeys as say opposed to 6 or 8 storeys? Simply arguing that Elsternwick has to serve its function as a Major Activity Centre is not an answer!
- Why when Glen Eira is providing double its housing ‘quota’ is council so hell bent on more development?
- Why does Mullen continually resort to false dichotomies by arguing that the issue is about ‘no development’ versus 12 storeys? No one is saying there shouldn’t be development. The angst is all about what council is proposing and its impact on residents. We have yet to learn anything about what council will do with the schedules to the zones, etc. That is being kept secret!
- Why when residents ask for another ‘option’ to be provided instead of the two options that the plans indicate (each option containing 12 storey buildings) does Mullen say that is a ‘councillor decision’ when he has previously stated that the plans are his recommendations. Who is running the show?
- Why does Mullen, when asked about mandatory height limits say that council can opt for 4 storey preferred heights as opposed to the 12 storey height limit but VCAT will exceed this height limit. Surely there is a vast difference between 4 and 12 storeys? Plus, didn’t council in its interim height amendment for Bentleigh insist that they should opt for some preferred heights rather than all mandatory and couldn’t stop patting themselves on the back that the preferred heights would provide ‘certainty’ to all? Now we get the reverse argument – that preferred heights are non enforceable and that VCAT will exceed the limits imposed. Pity this wasn’t stated at the time the amendments for Bentleigh & Carnegie were introduced!
- And yes, whilst amendments must be signed off by the Minister, surely this does not excuse council from listening to its constituents and at least trying to incorporate their views. Other councils can and do!
Until this council provides residents with honest and transparent answers, with data that is fool proof and detailed, we have absolutely no faith in any pronouncement made by this lot. Consultation is a farce. Pretending to listen to residents is a sham and acting upon resident views has yet to occur. As one resident said, council should be fighting tooth and nail for its people and not facilitating the slums of the future!
Finally we highlight this comment from one resident. She stated that she was concerned with council’s intention of extending shopping and night time hours and the deleterious impact this would have on surrounding neighbours. She said that this had been brought to the attention of Cr Silver and that his response was – “if you want peace and quiet go live in the country”!!!!!!!!!
If this is the attitude of our councillors then we are indeed in deep shit!
December 5, 2017 at 8:29 AM
Good reporting, it was possibly a shame Cr Dan Sztrajt didn’t make it along as he could have been a voice that may have supported the residents. Mary D. is a Labor hack and will support the bureaucrats and consultants self-interest or residents as she has always done. If Silvers’ comment is factual he’s a dead-loss of a councillor and a person.
December 5, 2017 at 9:58 AM
Lots and lots of angry people last night. Those I spoke with at the end were disgusted. No questions got a decent answer. Clapping after each person spoke was loud. All we got time after time was that council is protecting heritage and vcat ignores heritage. I’d like to know how heritage is protected with 12 stories next door and some places with covenants on them as one bloke said.
December 5, 2017 at 10:24 AM
Heritage protection, what a joke. Just have a drive around Glen Eira and see how many great old places are being knocked down. Irony is that Council is also proposing to extend the Activity Centres to encourage the development of sites with great old places. The hypocrisy is disgraceful.
December 5, 2017 at 10:39 AM
We remind readers of the following:
1. Did council suddenly wake up and decide that heritage is vital, since the 2013 introduction of the zones listed countless heritage areas in both Bentleigh & Carnegie. Council also had 3 years to see the impact of this ridiculous zoning, yet they did nothing to try and ameliorate the effect of the zones during this period.Now it’s all about heritage we are to believe! Two things are obvious – heritage is an excuse for now allowing 12 storey development in Elsternwick and 5 storeys in Bentleigh.
2. Some decent heritage amendments won’t be ready until at least mid 2019 if not later.
3. If Elsternwick is such an important Major Activity Centre, then why wasn’t this included in the interim height amendments that were produced (and then ignored) for Bentleigh and Carnegie. As it stands, Elsternwick has no protection whatsoever for the next few years at least. Another example of ‘brilliant’ double speak by council!
December 5, 2017 at 2:29 PM
Some of the best built heritage is close to rail stations and along the tram routes, exactly where the highest development is taking place. In the end the developers will get everything the want, piece by piece. The only hope is the wheels may fall off the perpetual growth model T, and all this unsustainable B/S will come back to a sane reality.
December 5, 2017 at 1:27 PM
Mullen went on and on for I reckon half an hour with all the spin. We were told right at the start that the evening would finish at 8.30. 2 hours in total for residents to get their message through. I’m very happy that the audience took charge and wouldn’t let council run things like they wanted. One bloke at the start called a spade a spade saying that you call this consultation when you set the agenda and that’s not consultation. Mullen was totally useless.
December 5, 2017 at 7:26 PM
Great attendance. Think they were shocked with not enough tables set out. Agree completely that Mullen was very very substandard. Bullshit only goes so far and there was plenty flying around last night and picked up easily by the people next to me. Good questions and comments from residents that didn’t get answered. I was annoyed with Mullin’s passing the buck about a third option and read this as a definite “no”.
December 6, 2017 at 10:27 AM
If Silver did say what is claimed he said then it is awful and disgraceful. Would be nice if no other councillor agreed with him. Doubtful.
December 6, 2017 at 1:19 PM
Cr Siver may speak his mind too fast without thought as he once said in council that he did not want social housing in his ward (where I live) and was forced to waste council time subsequently and more or less withdraw his original statement qualifyng it by how much good work the Jewish Welfare organisations carry out in Glen Eira. I do object to him poertraying that the Camden Ward should be free of social housing. He may be taking after the nasty English person who was very nasty to my ancesters the Irish. Maybe we should ask for a namer change for our ward.
The good works of Jewish welfare and his attitude to the needy are unrelated. Maybe he is so priveleged he is unaware of how easy it is for families and indiividuals to become caught up in the poverty net.
December 7, 2017 at 7:13 AM
Bloody shame.
December 7, 2017 at 10:14 AM
It is quite clear that the GEC intends to build a multi storey car park over the existing car park in Orrong Rd. To achieve this they will sell the other car park that sits behind the Chemist Warehouse. This will kill the business’s at that end of the village. These carparks were bought using money put up by shop keepers many years ago. They knew that carparking is critical for customers. To think that some moron can be payed by ratepayers to come up with smart arse ideas is unbelievable. Open space should be increased not decreased. If they try to pull this off you can expect a strong fight from the shopkeepers. In fact all the Camden Ward councillors would be tossed out at the next election. Get between a trader and his customers and watch the fight. Shop keepers do not take prisoners when their liveleyhood is hanging off it. be warned.