Council held its ‘information’ evening on the draft Glen Huntly structure plan this evening. There were over 40 residents plus only 2 councillors – Esakoff and Hyams. City Futures was represented by officers.
Sadly, the first 25 minutes was devoted to a powerpoint display pretending to explain the intricacies of the draft structure plan. Amazingly this officer did not once explain the most important aspect of the plan which was the fact that the proposed heights were currently designated as ‘discretionary’. The terms ‘discretionary’ and/or ‘mandatory’ did not pass her lips. Instead we got the usual platitudes, generalities and absolutely no justification for the suggested heights.
By the time this part of the meeting was completed, there was only about 25 minutes for resident questions and comments. Hardly enough we say! However, this did not stop tonight’s participants from presenting their views via their ongoing comments throughout the rest of the meeting which Zoom allows.
We feature these comments in full below. They certainly provide readers with a clear indication of what the community thinks of the draft structure plan. We have removed the names of the participants from the various questions/comments
Why Equinox sun, when the December Solstice is more important ???
06:57 PM
good question
From Glen Eira City Futures to Everyone: 06:57 PM
Verbatim question here everyone – I live 3 houses away from the proposed 6 story development on the Booran Reserve side of Booran road and Glen Huntly road. There seems to be a lack of transition from the existing tram route 3 story and 2 story side street height limit to what is proposed specifically in the opportunity site (West) corner Booran and GH street on the Booran Reserve side of the street. The proposed 6 story development will impact privacy and light to surrounding homes as well as parking, traffic, and the suburban character of the area as well as the general quality of life for residents. Why has the development been extended so far down GH road (to Emma and Heatherbrae) and not concentrated in the existing shopping and train district? Why is a 6 story development being considered- in a neighbourhood that has nothing higher than 2 stories. When was it decided that Glen Huntly was flagged as a high density major activity hub? My understanding was that is was not flagged as such- Caulfield and Els
06:58 PM
So is Ormand…. which has 6 lane road
06:58 PM
Is there going to be a heritage plan for Glen Huntly shopping strip, and wouldn’t it be better to have heritage protection in place before the structure plan
06:58 PM
Please explain your plans for car parking around the station. Thanks.
06:58 PM
Bentleigh is the other major activity centre which has shops spanning over 1km…
From Glen Eira City Futures to Everyone: 06:59 PM
Verbatim question here folks: Is the councils preference for the 3 railway lines to be lowered. If it is, will the pedestrian crossing at Macgowan / Wattle Avenues be retained.
06:59 PM
Will the bike path on Queens Ave be on the outside of the racecourse at ground level and if so how will the road / traffic be treated?
06:59 PM
yes please provide a further response
07:29 PM
totally agree with xxx regarding Glenhuntly should not be a Major Activity Centre !
07:29 PM
Who is the proposed builder of these towers
07:29 PM
Great points xxx has made – still want to know where all the profits are going
07:29 PM
I think our area has been hijacked by developers,
07:29 PM
Yes xxxx- good on ya
GLen Huntly is much smaller and much more similar to Caulfield South and MicKinnon and Murrumbeena and Hughesdale which are all neighbourhood activity areas
06:59 PM
(statement) I think 10 stories is far to high
07:00 PM
Agreed
07:00 PM
Agreed
07:00 PM
Absolutely
From Glen Eira City Futures to Everyone: 07:00 PM
Verbatim question from Kate: Is the bike path / running track on Queens Ave inside or outside of the racecourse and how is it accessed from the trail bike path from Carnegie?
07:00 PM
AGreed
ie re 10 storeys being too high.
07:00 PM
No tall buildings should be built in a residential area – it’s certainly NOT consistent with the character and feel of the area
07:01 PM
Hi Glen Eira Council. Just wondering if any of the housing developments within the Glenhuntly redevelopment is planned for social housing?
07:01 PM
There is no development higher than 3 stories in the immediate area including the commercial site on the corner of Booran and GH road. A move to 6 stories bordering on residential houses is very high with no transition
07:01 PM
agreed re 10 storey limit being too high and need to clarify heritage streetscape first
07:01 PM
are the bulding adjacent to Glenhuntly station on royal ave demolished
07:01 PM
is there an option to reduce the 10 storey building to 4-6 storey
07:01 PM
what happens to Woolworths parking?
07:02 PM
Ormond rail station ended up being a real mess that stills hasn’t been resolve. We have to do better than this.
From Glen Eira City Futures to Everyone: 07:02 PM
Thanks for all these additional questions everyone – we will follow up on these and make sure we send answers around
07:02 PM
What planning is there re parking and traffic…none has been presented that I have seen…does any exist or is Council allowing massive over-development first and worrying about parking and traffic later?
From Glen Eira City Futures to Everyone: 07:02 PM
Verbatim question from xxxx I think it’s fair to say that locals in general are concerned about the significant changes proposed along Glen Huntly Road which will completely alter the character, feel and visual impact of the area – please advise what residents have to do to prevent these drastic and unwanted changes to the local area, and how councillors will assist in this process.
07:02 PM
Will the plan be looking at the potential impact of Covid-19 or (let’s hope not) future viruses. Eg. if there is less usage of public transport
07:03 PM
Agreed
From Glen Eira City Futures to Everyone: 07:04 PM
Question from xxxx: Provide additional information on the potential to rezone residential areas from 3 storeys to higher mandatory height limits?
07:04 PM
For the high density development in the current Woolworths carpark you talked about shadows on Glen Huntly Rd, however you didn’t mention the shadows falling west onto Station Pl / Huntly St. Has this been considered if there is to be no setback against the railway line?
07:04 PM
xxxx I wanted to discuss the opportunity site 4 bookend sites on huntly street and watson grove. Thanks
From Glen Eira City Futures to Everyone: 07:04 PM
High density housing (many blocks of units / apartments are being built around Glen Eira). Will this be the “new look” for Glen Huntly?
07:05 PM
I agree 10 storeys is too high for the woolworths area 😦
07:05 PM
Can we request a review of the Glen Huntly allocation as a Major Activity Centre? I think we see ourselves as a “neighbourhood activity centre”
07:05 PM
the council web site say that Glen Huntly is already 74.4% medium to high density,,why, wasn’t this stated in the plan, and how much is to much? 80%, 90% 100%?
07:05 PM
Growth can be accommodated without inappropriate high-rise.
07:05 PM
For the two carparks on Huntly St, wouldn’t open space fit better into the current feel of this part of the neighbourhood compared to 3 storey residential living? The surrounding streets all have low-medium density housing and a strong community feel
07:06 PM
Has this draft been voted on by council- if so has council approved this as it is. If that’s the case is this a done deal
07:06 PM
Well said xxx
07:06 PM
Can Council identify any level of support among local residents for 6-10 storey towers in what is already the densest population centre in Glen Eira?
From Glen Eira City Futures to Everyone: 07:06 PM
Question from xxx How the car parking on the two opportunity sites on Huntly street will be maintained if housing development is permitted on those sites
07:07 PM
Will all these questions be answered in an open forum?
07:07 PM
Looking map of interchange – what is proposed? Map shown crosses the railway tracks and opens the possibility of development (SkyTower?)occurring above the railway tracks.
Verbatim question from xxxx: Is there any community support whatsoever that Council can identify for allowing 6 + storey buildings turning large sections of the Glenhuntly Road shopping strip into a sunless canyon for much of the year, or for 10 storey apartment blocks in the area, or for residents one block from Glenhuntly Road to have 4-6 storey apartment blocks overshadowing and overlooking their houses and back yards?
City Plan cites max 5 storey max so why is anything higher than that even being mentioned in Glen Huntly
From Glen Eira City Futures to Everyone: 07:08 PM
Please provide details of Council’s intentions to re-zone residential areas in Glenhuntly.
“Quite a lot of people opposed to increased building heights” – there’s your community feedback, Council!!!
I worry that residents voices won’t be heard
Is the idea of having all this development 10 storeys, 6 etc – is it to make money for the council? Who benefits financially from all this real estate developement?
What is the justification for 10 storey height behind Woolworths? What will it do to traffic flow? Light? setting a precedent for high rise? Insufficient green space in the area? What are the plans to add green space in an area that has not nearly enough – despite wonderful Booran reserve that caters to kids primarily
car park next to woollies – who owns this land?
07:10 PM
For existing residential properties -what do you mean by a housing assessment will take place- are there any plans to rezone current residential homes
The feedback here is that people are very concerned about the building heights. DOes this mean a new plan will be developed with residents input taken into consideration?>
Traffic movement in GH is already poor – how will the big increase be managed?
What does mixed housing mean- large buildings with mixed use is not enough detail.
From Glen Eira City Futures to Everyone: 07:11 PM
Question from xxxx:What’s the height restriction for the car park on the corner of Watson Grove and Huntly Street? How is the impact assessed?
07:11 PM
I’m Interested in the justification for 10 storeys, which seems excessive.
Did you do any community consultation when you changed it from a neighbourhood centre to a major activity centre? or decided for the residents that it would be okay to add 10 storey height limits?
07:12 PM
The corner of James street and GH road is already a mess, how can this under sized corner cope with all this proposed development.
1) Why has the Activity Centre’s core shopping strip been extended from Booran Road to Heatherbrae and Emma Streets ? What forms of commercial activity will be permitted in this area adjoining residential housing ?
07:12 PM
Will Council compensate residents whose solar panels are shaded by potentially 6 storey towers shading their rooves?
From Glen Eira City Futures to Everyone: 07:12 PM
2) Why have the sites at the Cnr of Booran and Glenhuntly Roads been proposed with a building height of 6 stories adjoining a low density housing area ? What forms of commercial activity would be permitted at this location ?
3) What is proposed for the rail siding area north of the current Glen Huntly Road car park adjoining Nerrium Road ?
Was anyone on this call part of the consultation process changing our suburb from a neighbourhood zoning to a major hub zoning
I was at the planning meeting
what is the plan for building adjacent to Glenhuntly train station on royal ave.
07:13 PM
Was there support for the rezoning
07:13 PM
I came away with the understanding that the character and feel of the area would be retained. I don’t believe this plan is consistent with that intention.
What are your specific plans for the area around U3A and the car park near Glenhuntly Woolworths?
This plan appears to be Half baked- lots of development but no thought as to how local residents are affected
07:15 PM
One of the stated reasons for allowing denser high rise development is to provide accomodation for the projected Melbourne population growth. In view of the recent abrupt change in the Australia – China relationship and growing opposition to population growth as a driver of economic growth surely the projected population growth (one of the inputs to the plan) has to be reduced ? When this is considered along with the devastating impact of the pandemic in dense high rise dwelling surely the proposed revision upwards of some of the areas to four and even six levels is both unwise and inappropriate given there are additional other major reasons for not changing current height limits (including traffic congestion and parking) ?
I agree- all of us support a beautification process for the existing shops in GH that has been neglected over the years, the height of proposed buildings is causing concern
07:15 PM
I agree – I don’t think GLen Huntly should be considered a Major Activity Centre. This will enable changes that are not consistent with it’s current character.
07:16 PM
I agree with you xxxx
Q What were the considerations that determined the height and density of developments in the Glenhuntly Road and Booran Road precinct and what effect will this have in the surrounding streets?
Q: What were the considerations that determined the height and density of developments in the Glenhuntly Road and Booran Road precinct and what effect will this have in the surrounding streets?
I agree with you
07:17 PM
Could you talk about the $$$ profit all this development will make and where it is going?
07:17 PM
There is no transition from 3 to 6,or more stories
will u3a survive in its existing site?
Are these building heights to be mandatory or discretionary….will 4 stories turn into 5 or 6 stories if developers make noises in this direction?
Why do you not create mandatory maximum height limits for some of these commercial developments to stop the loss of amenity, loss of light, overshadowing issues and detrimental effect on surrounding green areas?
07:18 PM
The answers is getting very repetitive, more development and more development .
Why do you not create mandatory maximum height limits for some of these commercial developments to stop the loss of amenity, loss of light, overshadowing issues and detrimental effect on surrounding green areas?
Balance that’s a joke, I see no balance here
07:20 PM
What sort of community and cultural services and venues will be incorporated?
The 2 car parks in Huntly Street were paid for “by the Glen Huntly Traders and Landowners back in 1980’s, with a fifteen year levy paid.” How can you replace these carparks with high rise dwellings?
Could Council provide justification and details of the amendment to the Glen Eira Planning Scheme that is needed to accommodate the draft Glen Huntly Structure Plan?
8 stories storeys is too high for for a neighbourhood centre It will change the atmosphere of the area. It is not carnegie or elsternwick Please explain?
Hi Matt we don’t have an answer to the height- you can see the level of concern. Can the heights be changed or are they a given
07:22 PM
City Plan may be high level, but residents are angry about the persistent applications for mega storey developments. Council should be listening to residents and applying significant pressure on the state government in regards to planning. Acid test is: would you want to live next door to a mutli-story apartment block.
Mandatory max heights would stop the VCAT merry go round that Council currently face, wasting huge amounts of residents money on legal fees.
It seems that the stricture plan allows rampant development with discretionary height limits but mandatory heights are in the too hard basket
If this structure plan is rammed down local residents throats now….what more will we have to fear from the “Housing assessment” alluded to by the speaker…when will this assessment be and will it allow 4-5 storey buildings next to 1-2 residential houses?
07:26 PM
I have pushed raise hand button to ask a question – can’t see if it’s up. Would like to ask a question
Yay xxx we need Council to represent US, not developers
07:29 PM
agrred
07:29 PM
If GH is a neighbourhood centre in the GE planning scheme, how can Plan Melbourne just override this?
Council have ticked the box for consultation but seem to be deaf to residents not wanting high rise extremes in their neighbourhoods. Not good enough,
07:30 PM
I wonder if any of the Council speakers would like a 6 storey monstrosity overlooking their back yards???
07:30 PM
Has council votes on this plan
07:30 PM
No, it’s still a draft
07:30 PM
By the time we get there it will be too late to object
07:31 PM
Yes
Given the way Caulfield Village grew and grew way past the initial proposed development, I fear that GH will go the same way
07:31 PM
If council addresses the height issues a large percentage of public concern would disappear
07:31 PM
the council is to represent the rate payers and it looks like the council has not listened to its people
07:32 PM
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07:32 PM
Re Height limits and justifying them using the sun’s position. I’m asking why they’ve used the Equinox sun ‘s position and not the Winter Solstice position which is lower in the sky?
good point Helen
07:32 PM
I think this draft plan is a mess and it should be started again with more sympathy for the existing built form
07:32 PM
it’s a draft ok
07:32 PM
count me in
07:32 PM
Is Council “consulting” with developers too?
07:33 PM
Development is great. It just needs to be appropriate.
07:33 PM
agree
07:33 PM
count me in too
07:33 PM
yes it looks like they are
07:33 PM
How much money is this proposed development making and where is the money going?
07:33 PM
Can we simply develop to Neighbourhood levels then?
07:34 PM
Scrap this plan , consult with residents, and start again please. If not, maybe we can elect councillors who are willing to do so.
07:35 PM
Why propose 6 to 10 storeys, knowing the minister will like this – can’t Council propose what the community wants, and take it from there?
07:35 PM
Is GH now a designated Major Activity Centre due to the cost of level crossing removals?
I am keen to further challenge our Major Activity Centre – can you please guide me?
disappointing meeting not enough time allocated for questions
07:36 PM
the level crossings were the numbers 3 and 4 in priority – why so long?
surely as a collective group you can challenge the Planning minister?
07:36 PM
This is a sham consultation.
thanks
07:37 PM
why are they still smiling about it all despite everyone’s concerns?
Maybe they know the final outcome and this is a charade?
July 15, 2020 at 9:40 PM
I don’t know how any council can put something out that is so missing detail. They admit they haven’t thought about surrounding areas. No traffic report either. No real shadow or overshadowing diagrams. How 6 or 10 stories can sit alongside 2 and 3 stories is beyond belief. I reckon that this is nothing more than a game. They will reduce the heights to 8 and then pat themselves on the back that they listened to the community. Like hell they did not and never have. The planning department should be sacked as should all these useless councillors. This should never ever have been sent out for consultation. As someone said it has to go back and they have to start from scratch all again. We desperaterly need 9 new councillors who work for residents and not developers.
July 16, 2020 at 7:56 AM
Totally agree with above reply. Time to move councillors on and vote in ones that actually represent the people in this community. Ones that include their residents in the consultation process from the beginning. They need to make themselves more transparent to increase community confidence. We want to be heard snd represented by a council who listens and acts on our behalf not just theirs.
July 15, 2020 at 9:58 PM
Glen Huntly was classified a Major Activity Centre in Melbourne 2030, the Labor Party blueprint for development circa 2002. I remember its slogan, an oxymoron, “Planning for sustainable growth”.
July 16, 2020 at 8:07 AM
Suggest the following questions be asked of Council. Will interim height controls be put in place to protect Glen Huntly while the Structure Plan is being developed? What was the percentage mix of feedback for those supporting and opposing the heights?
July 16, 2020 at 10:46 AM
Credible answers to your question rely completely on what was asked. In every single so called consultation the community has never been asked “Do you agree that the envisaged heights are appropriate?” Until we have consultation that is worthy of this term (ie decent questions, discussion papers that pinpoint the pros and cons and full transparency) consultation in Glen Eira will remain a complete farce.
July 16, 2020 at 11:07 AM
Yup like what do you love about your shopping strip. I’d call that pulling the wool over peoples eyes
July 16, 2020 at 11:56 AM
Yep agreed but these replies are defeatist. A comment was made last night by an officer that a diverse range of views were provided by community on heights. Council must be challenged on the evidence that sits behind this.
July 16, 2020 at 5:51 PM
what was galling was the responses last night to the resident queries were exactly the same as to the Carnegie and Elsternwick Structure Plan community consultation evenings in previous years. Resident feedback has no ability to be enforced or acted upon.The outrage from residents was obvious last night. Officers said that Glen Eira must pull its weight with housing increase numbers, well Glen Eira has been pulling its weight and quantitatively more than its share for many many years – this was not mentioned by officers last night and it is so relevant.. There was NO justification given for the proposed heights. No early engagement with residents and no clear answers last night. I do look forward to reading the officers answers to the resident questions posed last night. But I am fearful that residents concerns will not be acted upon (again).
July 16, 2020 at 8:21 PM
This meeting about the draft structure plan for Glenhuntly was almost entertaining – if only it hadn’t been so annoying. The contrast between the reassuring platitudes from Council staff and the irate commentary from concerned residents was priceless! Sadly, many residents also expressed their lack of faith in Council, and disbelief that any attention would be paid to their concerns. When will our elected representatives start listening to us and acting on our behalf? As for the Planning staff, their apparent enthusiasm for over-development in Glen Eira is downright disturbing.
July 16, 2020 at 10:14 PM
I to attended the webinar on the Glen Huntly SP, the bureaucrats answers were well rehearsed and repetitive.
They three speaking bureaucrats came across as slaves to the growth model. If anyone was looking for even a single brain-wave that was outside the paradigm of over development as well as pumping up the profit for the developers, it certainly wasn’t on show here.
Interesting Esacoff and Hyams plugged in for the show, apart from Esacoff doing the intro as the Mayor, both remained observers.
The one hour hook-up wasn’t anywhere near enough time to get through a fraction of the questions in waiting, and the very few questions raised from the floor came from the younger attendees, they totally ignored anyone over 40 years old.
July 17, 2020 at 2:26 PM
Council can now claim they have consulted with the community. Tick that box. Don’t change anything at all!