Consultations are literally coming out of our ears over the past few years. Council’s repeated mantra is that they want to hear from residents. That residents should provide meaningful comments so that their views may be taken into account in any subsequent decision making. Sounds wonderful. But the reality is vastly different.
Time and again we are presented with surveys that deliberately avoid the central issues or are framed in such a way as to elicit the desired response(s). This approach is anything but genuine consultation!
The latest example is the Have Your Say survey on the draft Built Form Frameworks for Bentleigh East, Caulfield South and Caulfield North. Each centre has its own survey, but the questions are identical.
Here are some examples of what is presented and why this cannot be viewed as a fair, unbiased, and revealing ‘consultation’ designed to elicit real community feedback.
EXAMPLE 1
The question asked was: Thinking about the Centre as a ‘vibrant’ place, how important are the following to you? Readers were then provided with the following:

We allege that not only are these options meaningless but that they have no relevance whatsoever to what is actually proposed in the draft document. Nor do any of these objectives come close to justifying what the actual recommendations are! For the above options, clearly 99% of respondents would say that buildings should be ‘visually interesting’ and ‘attractive’. And not too many people would object to catering to the wide range of housing needed for the elderly or the young. Nor would many be opposed to supporting local businesses. Thus we get a series of questions that literally lead most respondents to answer in the ‘very important’ to ‘important’ range.
But how are these questions related to what is recommended in the drafts, or even within council’s current planning scheme? Will the implementation of a 5 metre setback from the street be of great assistance in encouraging ‘attractive and visually interesting buildings’? Will a discretionary 6 storey height limit, also assist in this objective? Or is this nothing more than gobbledy-gook parading as if any of these objectives can be achieved with what is currently in the planning scheme and what is proposed.
More importantly there remains the question of how council will choose to ‘interpret’ the results of this survey. Will we get statements such as 95% of respondents answered ‘very important’ and thus they are endorsing the draft BFFs?
EXAMPLE 2
The focus then turns to ‘design objectives’ with the following options:

It should be pointed out that council’s definition of ‘mid-rise’ for Caulfield South is stated to be: A mid-rise character is about building height (between 4 and 7 storeys). This idea reflects the role of Caulfield South as a Neighbourhood Activity Centre, with a moderate role to play in meeting future housing needs as well as employment, transport and services. Unless readers have bothered to plough through all the verbage prior to this point, then they would have no idea of what is proposed for this centre. Furthermore, the language used here is questionable at best and at worst deliberately evasive. What does ‘cohesive’ really mean – especially since the order of the survey has not as yet clearly depicted the proposed height limits along the various streets. Do readers really have a grasp on the fact that according to the recommendations hundreds and hundreds of metres of buildings could all be at this maximum height – and that is called ‘cohesive’?
Also amiss is that unless readers have gone through the full documents, they would have no idea that council is proposing that sunlight only matters on the most ‘active’ part of the day. This is then defined as 10-12pm for certain streets and 12-2pm for some other streets. The above image does not relay this information. Of course, residents would respond that sunlight is vital. But this certainly doesn’t mean that they are ‘happy’ with a meagre 2 hours of sunlight because of the proposed building heights!
EXAMPLE 3
The following example if the best of the lot –

Of course height, setbacks, street walls and public realm areas are ‘important’ and should be the most important element in any planning document of this nature. But does selecting ‘very important’ indicate that residents are accepting of the recommendations in the draft document? Do residents really believe that a 6 storey discretionary height limit is what they want? Or that 2 hours of sunlight is sufficient?
CONCLUSIONS
There is much more that could be said about this style of ‘consultation’ and in particular, this survey. Until council is prepared to ask the questions that must be asked; to provide succinct and accurate summaries; to justify every single planning recommendation, then we are engaging in another sham consultation. All that is happening is that council is fulfilling its legislative requirement to undertake ‘consultation’, but nothing more. Until such a time that genuine evaluation of such processes is undertaken and reported upon we will continue to waste tens of thousands of dollars on consultations that are reverse engineered and designed to achieve predetermined outcomes.
May 12, 2021 at 2:39 PM
This type of consultation is useless and a waste of time.
May 12, 2021 at 4:03 PM
Perhaps Council could nominate the most senior person considered responsible for the survey, so we can ask the reasons why the survey was framed the way it was. It doesn’t appear to help analysis of the Draft Framework, and it certainly doesn’t contribute towards “new planning controls for the strip”. They even told us on the page that the Framework is about “size, shape, form and placement of future buildings”. Planning controls deal with amenity issues such as height, setbacks, front fence, site coverage, permeability, overshadowing, solar access. A serious attempt to engage the public would seek informed views on these and other relevant aspects of planning. The page had some egregious bullshit too about the suitability of locations “because of their good access to transport and services”. Sad fact is that Council and State Government uses weasel words that are meaningless. State Government at least hasn’t disputed that it makes planning decisions influenced by the amount of money it receives in “donations” from the development industry. Now Council, where is our municipality-wide Housing Strategy that the Minister said you needed to have.
May 12, 2021 at 7:25 PM
From what’s been said we will get the housing strategy about April 2022. The useless bff’s at best will only be a reference document and they will be done well before next year. I would have thought that in order to justify any height, the first thing needed is the completion of the housing strategy that is based on development rates over the past four or five years and how these numbers are tracking against population projections and housing needs. Councillors have already admitted that we are exceeding what we need. Plucking a figure out of the air such as 6, 8 and even 12 storeys doesn’t cut it unless you provide the evidence that such heights are needed. Remember reading somewhere here that looking at “capacity” is the poor man’s effort at pleasing government and shoddy planning. Any site could have 12 storeys if you want. The query should be – do we need 12 storeys when we are meeting housing projections?
Agree with you completely Carnegie. The survey is rubbish as most council’s surveys are. The questions asked get the answers they want. It’s that simple.
May 12, 2021 at 4:17 PM
Lots of questions from me. Which nerd wrote the survey? Who authorised it? If consultants, what was the brief? How much did these consultants get? Why aren’t the basic questions asked like do you think this height is appropriate for this street? Why do we need this height anyway if we are already meeting population growth. Show us the evidence for this. Oops I forgot – we don’t have a housing strategy. That will come after all this bullshit is rubber stamped.
May 12, 2021 at 6:53 PM
It’s the same with the “Community Voice” engagements, they just everyone to be one big happy family just bubbling with joy and enthusiasm over their latest “Con Job” These types of tick-box snow jobs just undermine community confidence in Councils ability to present anything in a balanced honest format. I’m beginning to think the CEO that should be monitoring these events is a complete “airhead”
May 12, 2021 at 7:53 PM
I am very curious and since Cr Zyngier has commented on this site previously, perhaps he might answer a few of my queries.
1. Do councillors have any input into the creation/drafting of the questions?
2. Are the majority of councillors happy with the survey?
3. Who authorised the final version of this survey?
4. Was the survey taken through a trial run with residents, or anyone else, before it was published?
May 13, 2021 at 11:32 AM
Hi D. Evans,
I nominated for Glen Eira’s Community Engagement advisory committee because I was not impressed with the quality of our past engagements.
In answer to your questions:
1. Councillors do not have input into the creation/drafting of the questions – I am trying to change that
2. I suspect the majority of the Councillors have not even seen the survey yet
3. I will need to ask to find out who authorised the final version of this survey
4. It is unlikely that the survey was trialed before it was published – or I would have heard about it. That is another thing I am trying to change
Kind regards,
Simone
May 13, 2021 at 7:07 PM
Thank you Cr Zmood for answering my queries. I guess they basically confirm my fears that councillors have very little say in what happens in regards to various processes within council. Whoever devised and had the final say for this survey should be held accountable for its flaws.
May 13, 2021 at 9:59 PM
Almost, or possibly all the GE surveys I have participated in, and that’s been a lot over the years. Never seem to get to the heart of the issues they are asking you to comment on, they tinker around the edges with fairly soft questions, and you get the feeling like you are participating in a rigged raffle.
It’s a bit like Henry Fords Model A – You could have it in any colour you wanted, so long as it was black.
May 13, 2021 at 9:09 AM
I think that it would be more appropriate for council to survey resident views on height, setback, placement of more intense development, commensurate open space etc. before a ‘draft’ document is produced as currently these ‘draft’ documents seem to be mature documents rather than early drafts. This early information to residents could (importantly) include targets, current housing data, (housing numbers, sustainability) goals, and the advantageous improvements to come to help offset the anxiety that sometimes comes with change in your neighborhood. Residents would be more likely to engage in this way if their feedback was later reflected in the final report. Many residents that I speak with think it is not worth their effort (currently) to contact council on local planning issues as they think that council will not act on their feedback. Could our council rate notices have additional documents included, with a request for feedback?
We have big issues to get right this year, increased tree canopy targets, more open space in carefully chosen locations, and the crucial underpinning housing strategy necessary to proceed with structure plans etc. And population pressures have changed since the virus. – so big spend items (swimming pools/location of high rise carparks) need to be paused – or at least re-evaluated with the knowledge of changing habits since the pandemic
May 24, 2021 at 11:44 AM
They simply don’t want to ask about heights/number of stories or the like as they know the answers they will get. Also they want to present us with draft documents which leave very little room for movement, we need to keep challenging them on this.
Interesting post by a council member above, seems they are having trouble getting some say in what the council does – ridiculous.