GE Consultation/Communication


The following Media Release is on council’s website –

Council made a preliminary decision on Tuesday night to close its three small Early Learning Centres in Caulfield, Carnegie and Murrumbeena.

Statement from Glen Eira Mayor Cr Jim Magee: Preliminary decision on the future of Council’s three early learning centres

We are now consulting directly with impacted families, staff, and the community before making a final decision by the end of the year.

We recognise this will be a challenging time for staff and families and are here to support them.

Council’s three Early Learning Centres were established at a time when opportunities for families to access childcare services were limited. In the decades since, a radical change in government funding and policy has led to a boom in the childcare market and slowed demand for Council’s centres.

The number of childcare places in Glen Eira has doubled since 2010, and increased from 3,966 places to 5,731 places since 2019, an increase of 44 per cent. Nine further non-Council centres now in the planning phase will offer a further 919 places.

A service review found we provide quality care and have excellent educators, however our older centres no longer meet contemporary building and service standards that modern childcare centres provide. 

Our centres are expected to operate at a loss of at least $570,000 each year. Amid increasing costs and economic uncertainty, it is getting harder for councils to run services and we need to make responsible choices and provide value to all the community.

The municipality has a vibrant childcare market that provides choice, competition and capacity. We have confidence that the supply of childcare places will meet current and future demand. Our centres now account for just two per cent of the childcare places available across the municipality.

If Council decides to close the centres, the final day of operation is likely to be Thursday 21 December 2023. We will help families find alternative care that best suits their individual needs and help staff find a new role through redeployment to another Council role or career support.

To learn more about the Council preliminary decision and provide feedback, visit www.haveyoursaygleneira.com.au/childcare.

Media contact: Alex Leamy on 0409 086 361

PS: The Age is also running a story on this issue. See: https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/glen-eira-council-to-close-three-childcare-centres-before-christmas-20231005-p5e9yc.html

On Tuesday night there was a Special Council Meeting to (re)consider submissions on the closing off of Orrong Crescent/Alma Road in order to facilitate the proposed pop-up park at this corner. What is staggering about the processes involved is that council never seems to get it right – despite all their planning and traffic departments and legal advisors. It is clear that what motivates this administration is to implement something that has already been determined regardless of what the legislation requires! Council wants the pop-up park in spite of previous consultations that were strongly opposed. The first step to achieving this is the closure of the intersection. Thus the two are intricately linked. Trouble is, the law has been ignored!!!!!!

Please listen carefully to the following submission made on the night. It highlights the legal flaws in what council has done as well as the lack of required evidence to support the proposal of closing off the intersection. This new attempt comes on top of the failure to properly advertise and seek submissions on the first attempt.

There can be no excuse for what is happening here. Due legal process has not been followed; pivotal research such as traffic reports have either not been done, or not provided to councillors. Not the first time that councillors are expected to vote on an issue without all the relevant information before them! Even the officer’s report distorts what the submissions say in the claim that 4 were in support and 7 opposed. Of the four allegedly in ‘support’, the focus is exclusively on the pop-up park and NOT the closure of Orrong Crescent which is what this item is about! Council’s approach is akin to a bull in a china shop where the objective is to ram through whatever has already been decided.Hardly transparent and good governance!

Council’s consultants are maestros in camouflaging the real facts and figures that should be the basis of all decent strategic planning. This of course only reinforces our view that the role of consultants is to provide any so called ‘evidence’ which will support decisions already made by this planning department.

This post focuses on the two traffic reports for the Bentleigh & Elsternwick structure plans. Both were done by the same company – yet they are very different in important components. Why?

We will start off with Elsternwick. On page 28 of the study we have this image:

We are told that: Dwellings in Elsternwick are a split of single detached dwellings (57%) and multi-unit dwellings (43%). The phrasing of ‘single detached dwellings’ would imply that these dwellings are stand alone houses and ‘multi-unit’ dwellings are interpreted as flats. Are we therefore witnessing some sleight of hand, when these figures are compared to what the 2021 Census results tell us? If our interpretation of ‘single detached dwellings’ coincides with the ABS interpretation, then these results are far more than bogus – they represent a deliberate attempt to distort and hide the true facts. Interestingly, we can find no definition in the consultant’s reports of what ‘single detached dwellings’ and ‘multi-unit dwellings’ means.

Compare the above with what the census reveals below:

38% compared to the reports 57%!!!!!!! We can only assume that the 38% has been added to the 19.3% to come anywhere near the stated 57%. If this is the case, then it is entirely misleading – especially since the consultants provide no definitions or explanations.

Another aspect of the above page is the claim that 12% of HOUSEHOLDS don’t own a car. The resorting to ‘households’ instead of dwellings is interesting. When we look at the car ownership per dwelling we get a completely different result (see below).

The Bentleigh transport report doesn’t follow the Elsternwick version. Instead we now get comparisons on page 128/9 to Windsor!!!! Readers should remember that we have been repeatedly told that we CANNOT compare one municipality to another. Yet, this is exactly what this supposed traffic analyses has done. And it doesn’t hold up to scrutiny when we find that Windsor compared to Bentleigh is an entirely different proposition!

For starters, we now are looking exclusively at PERCENTAGES and not NUMBERS in the attempt to prove how similar these two suburbs are. What is not stated are the following that completely change the conclusions. The table below is derived from the ABS 2021 census data.

Please note:

  • Bentleigh’s population is close to 3 times that of Windsor
  • The number of dwellings in Bentleigh is double that of Windsor
  • The number of dwellings without cars in Bentleigh is 446 and Windsor is 344. When these numbers are calculated as a PERCENTAGE of dwellings without cars, then of course Windsor will have a higher percentage given it has half of the dwellings in Bentleigh.

There is much, much more that could be written about these traffic reports and the invalidity of what is presented. Yet these documents are supposed to form the ‘evidence’ for structure plan recommendations. They fail dismally and are there simply to fulfill all legal requirements instead of providing an analyses that does hold up to scrutiny. We can only wonder how much these reports have cost ratepayers!!!!!! Undoubtedly money well spent when the objective is to facilitate more and more development with increased deterioration of residential amenity!

Last night’s council meeting included a Glen Eira first – a Notice of Motion presented by Cr Zyngier. This was permitted since council’s governance rules were once again shown to include a monumental stuff up and hence the denial of a real Notice of Motion was not possible. Admittedly we had not picked this up previously but can now conclude that the following was the reason why the governance rules (as intended) would not hold up to legal scrutiny. The crucial section is contained in this dialogue box taken directly from the governance rules –

We then get this caveat which basically undermines and rules useless the attempted Clayton’s Notice of Motion.

Thus we get a first in Glen Eira – a genuine Notice of Motion!

Please listen very carefully to the following audio of this motion. It failed once again on the casting vote of Magee after Penniciuk declared a conflict of interest and left the chamber.

What however is quite staggering in this item, needs to be highlighted and seriously questioned!

  • Why are councillors denied access to essential consultant/officer reports that would substantiate the ensuing recommendations and claims made?
  • How does this equate with informed decision making, when councillors are not privy to the evidence?
  • Why are potential inaccuracies in officer/consultant reports not open to scrutiny or review?
  • How many more times are councillors forced to vote on something of major significance without the benefit of the full data?

Transparency, and accountability, plus informed decision making by this council is clearly non-existent!

We have for ages bemoaned the fact that in Glen Eira residents are confronted with an uphill battle to fully comprehend what council proposes in its structure planning – unless they are willing to spend hours upon hours in deciphering hundreds of pages of documents. There has never been a simple, single page document which itemises proposed controls and/or changes, that are easily accessed and read. Luckily, not all councils operate on the principle of obfuscation like Glen Eira does!

Here is an example from Monash and involves their structure plan for the Glen Waverley Major Activity Centre. The following images come from https://shape.monash.vic.gov.au/amendment-c167/detailed-changes

Please note:

  • The clear summaries for the various types of sites – ie commercial, residential, etc.
  • Interestingly, Monash sees fit to assign a 29 metre preferred height for its 8 storey development(s), whilst Glen Eira wants 31 metres!
  • Note the increase in private open space requirements. Readers will remember that in Glen Eira, the housing strategy recommends the removal of the mandatory garden requirement in all areas zoned GRZ!
  • Lastly, it beggars belief why Monash is allowed to include so many residential properties in their structure planning area and in Glen Eira, the proposed DDO’s for Bentleigh, Carnegie, and Elsternwick only apply to the commercial and mixed use zones for the major part.

We are not commenting on how ‘good’ or ‘bad’, the Monash plan is. All we wish to highlight is the manner in which Monash informs their community in a simple and clear fashion and how it conducts its consultation programs. In Glen Eira we get nothing like this!

We’ve received the following email from a Bentleigh resident. It was sent to councillors, the CEO, and to the Minister.

“Good morning Mr Mayor.

I am writing in regard to your recent correspondence about a petition which was submitted to Council around the proposed inappropriate structure plan. We dedicated a good deal of time to get to the residents and to obtain 221 signatures from 221 very angry residents who deserve to have their feelings included in the process of Community consultation.

Your advice to us is that the 221 residents will be considered as one submission. Your words in your email are;

“The petition will be included as a submission on the draft structure plan, but in accordance with Council practices, it will be considered as a single submission”.

So if I understand you correctly, we might as well have saved a considerable amount of time and effort and submitted just one resident. It would carry the same weight as the 221 names we provided. 

I request clarification as to my interpretation of your comments, and if I am correct, I want to know the reason behind ignoring the remaining 220 residents who have provided their details. 

This seems to me and to a number of those who took the time to provide their details to be simply wrong and against any fair inclusion of their wishes. I said that there was anger by the residents we contacted with the petition, but that pales into insignificance when compared to the anger shown by those who I have already advised of the Councils position regarding their involvement.

I wonder if this council and its planning department is really interested in Residents issues and wishes or is this process of Community Consultation again just for show.

This, if my interpretation of your comment is correct, is a disgusting situation. 

I look forward to your clarification in this matter.

Thank you,”

COMMENT

Not for the first time has Council ignored community feedback, arguing that forums were either ‘information sessions’, and hence don’t ‘qualify’ for official ‘consultation’ events. What bunkum! Readers will remember that:

  • Over 100 residents came out on a cold winter’s night to present their views on the Housing Strategy. The resulting reports on that evening revealed that the anger was ‘palpable’, especially when officers attempted to close down the meeting instead of continuing to listen to what residents had to say.
  • Way back over 200 people attended another ‘information forum’ on the draft Elsternwick structure plan. Again ignored. Bentleigh structure planning was another instance of down playing feedback.
  • The very fact that in the vast majority of council reports outlining community feedback,  there is a failure to include honestly and comprehensively what residents had to say. Legitimate concerns about ‘overdevelopment’ are simply swept under the carpet and barely rate a mention. Council even fights tooth and nail to prevent the verbatim publication of  such feedback when previously this was seen as proper process when strategic planning first began.
  • We have now had structure planning endorsed for Glen Huntly, Bentleigh, Elsternwick, Carnegie, and Caulfield accompanied by bogus surveys, ‘information sessions’, and spin. Not once have these surveys been road tested with the community consultation committee, and councillors barely get a look in. Repeatedly, councillors  have been forced to vote without all the relevant documents available to them, or without sufficient time to critically analyse and digest what it is they are being asked to vote on. This planning department and administration has much to answer for!

Structure planning is vitally important to the residents of Glen Eira. Council continually espouses how vital it is to hear back from the community and to engage as many constituents as possible. Yet, their methods of achieving this goal are deliberately circumscribed and inadequate. One would surely think that when submissions are called for Bentleigh & Carnegie these would achieve major prominence in the Glen Eira News. Furthermore, that the actual proposals are listed. Not so. What we get in the latest Glen Eira News is the following – and buried at page 8. It consists of the usual spin – ie ‘land use, heritage’, etc. but without a single word actually describing what is proposed. Definitely deliberate because if residents were told that the drafts contain plans to permit 12 storey discretionary, and that heritage listed places can be 5 and 6 storeys, then there would probably be plenty of submissions forwarded to council. The plan is clear: keep residents as ignorant as possible unless they are prepared to plough through hundreds upon hundreds of pages in order to decipher the true vision. This is unconscionable and contrasts sharply with other councils’ approaches.

Simply ask yourselves – would any reader of the following image have any real idea of what lies in store?

The following article appeared in the Herald Sun on the 29th August.

Stop Elsternwick Towers launched Red Spot Special campaign in fight against Woolworths

A group of Elsternwick residents are turning back the clock in a long-running battle to stop a supermarket giant building high rise towers.

Lucy Callander

Old photos are the latest weapon in a long-running battle to stop Woolworths building high rise apartment towers in Elsternwick.

A community group fighting the proposal says the images cast doubt over whether the council could “give away” part of the land needed for the development.

The parcel of land in dispute, May Street (west), forms a 500sq m component of Woolworths’ larger development site and is essential for the project to proceed on the old ABC TV site.

On September 7, 2022 VCAT granted planning permission for a mixed use development including a supermarket and apartments at 10-16 Selwyn St. A condition of the planning permission was that work could not begin until Glen Eira Council was satisfied that May St was not a legal road. 

Earlier this year Glen Eira Council accepted evidence provided by Woolworths that the land had not been used as a road since World War II.

However, Stop The Elsternwick Towers said it had received expert legal advice that May Street west was a road that had never been discontinued by the council.

“Legally it belongs to Council on behalf of ratepayers and not Woolworths, who have gated the area and plan to build over it,” the group said.

Group spokesman Max Deacon said photos, including an image from 1968, proved the land was open to the public in the late 60s.

“The new research shows that May Street was set aside for public use from 1889 and that it remained open to the public until a gate was placed at the Selwyn Street end of May Street during the Second World War,” Mr Deacon said.

“Council’s acceptance of Woolworths’ claim suggests nobody used May Street for some 50 years. And that nobody has used it after the Second World War, despite aerial photos showing it open to the public again in 1968. “That simply doesn’t make sense.”

Mr Deacon said the group had sent the information to the council and wanted the decision reviewed.

“At law any transfer of public land from council control to the private sector must undergo a thorough community consultation process,” he said. “This has not occurred. “What is worse, is Council is giving away public land to developers for nothing.” Mr Deacon said the value of the land could be as much as $5m, based on the $55m purchase price of the overall site.

“Development is cheap when the land is free,” he said. “Woolworths must be rubbing their hands with glee.”He said the community wanted the site turned into a public park.

Glen Eira chief executive Rebecca McKenzie refuted the claim the council was giving away public land to a private developer.

“The planning permit requires Woolworths to provide evidence that part of their land is not a public road that should be transferred to Council, which they have done,” she said. “We have received evidence from both Woolworths and Stop the Elsternwick Towers (STET). “We undertook our own due diligence and agreed that it is not a road at law.”

COMMENT

Council’s claims of ‘due diligence’ would carry far greater credibility if the assumed ‘legal advice’ they received was made public.  The same can be said for the Woolworth’s advice.

We acknowledge upfront that each activity centre is unique and different. But, there are surely certain planning principles which must be applied equally to each centre. In this post we focus on what council considers appropriate for sites located in the existing heritage overlays for both Elsternwick and Carnegie and the ensuing proposals for height limits and overshadowing.

Council’s planning for these two structure plans attempts to convince us that preserving and protecting heritage is vital. The planning scheme however, differentiates between ‘significant/contributory’ sites within each heritage overlay. Those sites designated as ‘non-contributory’ may be ‘developed’ whilst those deemed ‘contributory’ will hopefully have mandatory height limits assigned.

The following screen dumps show the existing overlays for both Bentleigh and Elsternwick. We have concentrated on the commercial spine of Glen Huntly Road and Koornang Road.  Both shopping strips have a heritage overlay applied.

Given the above one should suspect that the resulting heights would be identical given the heritage overlays. But they aren’t!  For the Koornang Road strip the proposed structure plan nominates a 5 storey height limit whilst the Elsternwick version includes height limits of 6 storeys (discretionary). The question then becomes: are all sites in Koornang Road deemed ‘contributory’? Here is the evidence that shows at least 11 sites that are designated as ‘non-contributory’.

Why then should Elsternwick’s non contributory sites be given leeway for a 6 storey discretionary height limit and Koornang Road’s non contributory sites be awarded a 5 storey height limit?

What must also be remembered is that Koornang Road runs in a north/south direction whilst Glen Huntly Road runs east/west. For Glen Huntly Road, as well as Centre Road, this means that at the winter solstice, and even the summer equinox at certain times, sunlight will not reach the southern footpaths where people are enjoying their lunches and coffees. We highlight this because the inconsistency between council’s planning is really unbelievable.

Here are screen dumps from both the Carnegie Urban Built Form Framework (page 20) and the Elsternwick one. Please note carefully the boxed sections and the introductory blurbs waxing lyrical about the importance of sunlight.

This raises a myriad of questions:

  • Why can a north/south running shopping strip have a 5 storey mandatory height limit and an east/west shopping strip be allowed a 6 storey discretionary height limit?
  • Why aren’t ‘non-contributory’ sites treated the same?
  • How reliable and accurate are the actual shadow diagrams presented in both cases?
  • Why the differences between both given that the Carnegie sunlight exposure reaches to the back footpath section and the Elsternwick one only reaches the front edge of the footpath. Given that both are the work of the same consultancy firm, then why the differences?

What we’ve presented are fair and legitimate questions and go to the heart of decent and consistent strategic planning. Our conclusion can only be that the consultant’s reports are simply there to confirm what has already been decided by this planning department. Again, transparency and accountability simply do not exist!

Last night’s debate on the Elsternwick structure plan would have made Machiavelli proud in terms of the chicanery that was enacted. This council has reached the nadir of good governance and accountability and obviously has no compunction in employing every dirty trick it can to further its agenda.  Here are some of the lowlights of what happened.

  • Out of the blue a note suddenly materialised and was presented to Magee stating that Pennicuik had a ‘conflict of interest’. Who wrote the note, and when it was written remains undisclosed.  Interesting, because when Magee asked for any conflicts of interests at the start of the meeting, there were none. Suddenly we get the Pennicuik one. The consequence of this was that only 8 councillors were permitted to vote and Magee therefore had a second, casting vote. A number of questions arise as a result. If this was a genuine conflict of interest (which we doubt) then why was Pennicuik permitted to vote previously on anything to do with this structure plan? And if it is a genuine conflict of interest, then why don’t the same principles and standards apply to Athanasopolous’ voting when it comes to Carnegie and the business he runs there? Does this mean that any councillor who owns a property in an area cannot be involved in decision making for that area and thus can’t represent his constituents? It is ludicrous that this is the standard that Glen Eira chooses to implement – but only when it suits of course!!!!!
  • Every effort was made by Magee to silence Cr Zyngier on numerous occasions, especially when he queried the accuracy of the data that the officers had provided to consultants and which all had a significant impact on the consultants’ ensuing recommendations.
  • Torres continues to mislead this council and it can only be deliberate. For example: when discussing the difficulty of enshrining winter solstice standards into the planning scheme, Torres also referred to council’s reliance on ResCode. What he does not say cannot be seen as an oversight since he knows full well that ResCode DOES NOT APPLY to buildings that are above 5 storeys. The issue here is 6 storey and higher buildings on Glen Huntly Road. ResCode is entirely irrelevant!!!!!
  • The gallery was told several times that there were several alternate amendment motions. Why it was the Cade amendment that was heard first (and thus was voted in on Magee’s casting vote, instead of the Zyngier proposal) raises further questions of manipulation to achieve the desired outcome. There was literally not even a nano-second,  or pause for breath, between Magee asking for a motion and then immediately calling on Cade! Pre-arranged? You bet!!!!!There is no way that this could be seen as anything other than backroom orchestration designed to prevent the Zyngier proposed amendment!
  • At one point Zyngier attempted to prevent the removal of Pennicuik, by proposing a ‘friendly amendment’. He suggested that 509 Glen Huntly Road be removed from the Cade amendment, which was the property causing the alleged conflict of interest. We note that 509 is: (1) a block of apartments; (2) it is not listed as a ‘significant’ heritage building and is very unlikely to be demolished and have a six storey dwelling erected in its place because of the sheer number of apartments and presumably individual owners.

Here is what it looks like:

Magee ruled that this was NOT a ‘friendly amendment’ since it is an ‘alternate’ recommendation! Further, he ruled that both the mover and seconder did not accept this – YET THEY WERE NEVER DIRECTLY ASKED WHETHER THEY WOULD ACCEPT THIS as is the normal custom. He simply made the decision to discount Zyngier’s attempt with the lamest of excuses! Furthermore council’s own governance rules state the following in regard to ‘friendly motions’ –

Clause 38(2): A friendly revision of a Motion may propose to alter a Motion by leaving out, inserting or adding words which complement the Motion.  

The aim of last night’s meeting was to achieve by hook or by crook the ratification of the Cade amendment. It was designed to prevent council taking a position on protecting sunlight to the southern side of Glen Huntly Road because this would further limit the heights of development on the northern side. For all the rhetoric of giving a damn about heritage, and the ‘village feel’ of Elsternwick, the Cade amendment revealed how little council cares about these issues. 12 storeys still remains, and that’s supposed to be in line with the ‘village’ atmosphere. And we are supposed to take comfort in the fact that a 6 metre setback will now be sufficient to avoid additional overshadowing when no documentation/evidence has been supplied to justify this claim.

Residents need to hold such manoeuvring and councillors to account. We have a mayor whose only function appears to be to steam roll through anything that the planning department puts in front of him. It is indeed a very sad day for Glen Eira residents because this sets the precedent for Bentleigh, for Carnegie, and for every activity centre in the municipality.

Please listen very, very carefully to the following audio of the ‘debate’ and note Magee’s actions and words throughout this item.

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