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Agenda Item 9.4: Interim Heights

Council’s agenda features Amendments C147 and C148 which will go to the Minister seeking ‘interim height limits’ for the Bentleigh and Carnegie activity centres. The proposed amendments are for areas zoned commercial and mixed use.

Whilst Council is to be applauded for getting the ball rolling, there are many features of these amendments that are far from satisfactory and which will achieve very little in terms of protecting neighbourhoods. We have uploaded the full report HERE.

The concerns we have are:

  • Many of the proposed height limits are ‘discretionary’ – meaning that developers can, and undoubtedly will, apply for much higher buildings.
  • The metres nominated are highly questionable – given the residential zones. For example: In both amendments we have such schedules as “14 metres comprising up to 4 storeys”. If developers can now erect 4 storey buildings with a height limit of 13.5m, then surely they can cram 5 storeys into 14 metres. All that has to happen is a lowering of ceiling heights, or the slope of the land. Why hasn’t council stuck to the 10.5 and 13.5 height limit here?
  • The amendments also allow a 4 metre extension (ie lift over-runs, antennaes, etc). 4 metres is extraordinary when the zones provide the developer with only a 1.5 metre leeway.

The most grating aspect of these amendments however is the failure to ask residents what they think are the appropriate heights in any of these areas. Now, with a resolution to go to the Minister under ‘fast track’, there will again be the exclusion of the public to provide a viewpoint. Nor is there one scrap of strategic justification provided as to why 7+ storeys is acceptable in Carnegie. Has council really done its necessary homework, or once again sat down at their computer desks and drawn lines on a map? And what of the requirements for setbacks? Why keep accepting ResCode when it has been such a dismal failure? We remind readers that when other councils introduce DDOs (Design and Development Overlays – even interim ones) these features are included. Not in Glen Eira! We suggest that once again this is lazy and poor planning and does not meet the community’s expectations.

Some aspects of these amendments are literally laughable.The Bentleigh one basically regurgitates what the current planning scheme contains – ie Buildings on the North side of Centre Road to be designed and articulated so that they do not overshadow onto the footpath on the southern side of Centre Road at the September equinox at noon. (amendment) and the current planning scheme has – Buildings on the north side of Centre Road are articulated, so shadow is not cast onto the footpath on the south side of Centre Road.  We therefore wonder how on earth the potential for a 5 or 6 storey building on the North side of Centre Road will not cast a shadow!

FYI, we’ve summarised the proposals below:

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PS: we wish to highlight some other anomalies in these proposed amendments. Here is the map of the zoning in Centre Road.

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Please note:

  • For the ‘northern’ areas of Centre Road where commercial sits alongside Neighbourhood Residential zones (ie Wheatley Road, Rose St) council has imposed a 4 storey MANDATORY HEIGHT. Thus for this side of the road it was deemed appropriate that the 4 to 5 storeys sit alongside an 8 metre mandatory height limit.
  • On the other side of Centre Road (directly opposite) there is a mandatory height limit of 3 + storeys. Why? Admittedly there is a Heritage Overlay for these streets ( ie Sunnyside, Eddy’s Grove, etc) but this still does not excuse in our view why one side of the street should be given a different mandatory height when both abut NRZ homes.
  • Things get even more crazy when we consider the proposals for Robert Street A 4 storey mandatory height limit for commercially zoned land along the southern side of Centre Road between Mavho Street and Robert Street . Two streets up from Mavho, we have another heritage overlay. But these are zoned Residential Growth Zone. Thus, instead of changing the zoning, Council it seems has simply chosen to once again do nothing about the zones and to use these amendments to simply rubber stamp the existing zoning. When one side of Centre Road gets a 3 storey recommendation possibly because of its nearness to a heritage overlay, and up the road for streets that are in a Heritage overlay are assigned 5 storeys, then planning is awry and incompetent.

The bottom line is that council will do nothing that involves changing one single aspect of its atrocious zoning.

The Ombudsman  recently met with the CEO and the Mayor in relation to her investigation into ‘secrecy’ and lack of transparency in council decision making. It is therefore astounding that the following has occurred so shortly afterwards.

1.The online and hard copy agenda published on the Friday before the last council meeting did not contain any items for in camera consideration

  1. On the evening of the council meeting (ie last Tuesday week) there was this ‘insert’ into the agenda – please note the in camera item.

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  1. The minutes have finally been published. Wonder of wonders, the above description has disappeared into the ether. All that residents are now told is this wonderfully uninformative single line –

12.1 Under s89(2)(d) “contractual”.

Then on ‘outcomes’ of the in camera discussion, the minutes state –

Item 12.1

Crs Lipshutz/Delahunty

That the recommendation in the report be adopted.

The MOTION was put and CARRIED unanimously.

What has happened to the far more expansive explanation regarding the open space item? Why was this edited down and by whom? Why is so much effort expended to keep residents uninformed? And why does this council continue to push the envelope when it comes to transparency and sound governance? Who is behind this latest attempt at secrecy? We would even suggest that given the resolution the item is no longer ‘confidential’, since the Local Government Act states on disclosure:

in relation to resolutions recorded in the minutes, incorporate relevant reports or a summary of the relevant reports considered in the decision making process.

Residents have no idea as to the ‘report’ much less any idea as to what this resolution concerns, or what its ramifications are? Will council be spending money for open space? If so, how much? Did the report recommend no purchase? Where is this potential open space?  Is the location good value? We can only assume that if the wording of the item was changed then it is a deliberate attempt to conceal from the public what is really going on! What makes this even easier to conceal is that council sees fit to provide only half a dozen or so agendas in the chamber when the gallery over the past few meetings has at times contained 10 times this number of residents. Please remember that council has ‘promised’ several times over the years to consider displaying motions, amendments via some form of overhead, so that residents can follow what is going on. Nothing has eventuated!

We are confident that the ombudsman would be very interested in this latest example of Glen Eira’s approach to transparency and sound governance and non-adherence to the strictures of the Local Government Act!

“What effective controls do the Glen Eira City Council have in place to ensure that the personal information of those asking Public Questions is protected and not disclosed or published in the Ordinary Council Meeting Minutes.”

The Mayor read Council’s response. He said:

“The process for submitting public questions to Council is managed in accordance with the Glen Eira City Council Local Law 2009 together with Guidelines for Public Question Time adopted by Council. Local Law 232 requires that questions bear the questioner’s name, address, date and telephone number.

Public questions submitted to a public forum such as a Council meeting are public in their nature, however, Council has generally followed a practice that only the questioner’s name will be recorded in minutes of Council meetings.

Council’s practice is to include in Council minutes the first initial and surname of the person asking the question together with the actual question. Due to a change in Council personnel Council did not follow the usual practice in its most recent minutes for the public questions on 19 Jul, 2016. However, these minutes have now been revised to delete the full address details of the questioner to comply with past practice.

The Local Government Act 1989 requires the minutes of Council meetings to contain details of the proceedings and resolutions made. Council is of the view that the Privacy and Data Protection Act 2014 does not preclude the publication of the questioner’s name and address in the Council minutes.”

COMMENT

  • Information Privacy Principle (IPP) No.2 states – An organisation must not use or disclose personal information about an individual for a purpose (the secondary purpose) other than the primary purpose of collection…… The individual has consented to the use or disclosure ….
  • Disclosing the names, addresses, and emails of those who submitted public questions is NOT THE PRIMARY purpose of the collection of such information. Council’s ‘guidelines’ clearly state that details such as name, address, date and phone nos. are required for ‘verification’. That, and that alone, is the primary purpose.
  • Is it really too much to ask (given that this is not the first time this has occurred) that instead of bluff and bluster, council simply proffers a heartfelt and genuine apology?

Here is how Pilling summed up:

PILLING: thanked residents for the ‘most successful consultation’ in Glen Eira and that the review ‘largely reflects’ what the community wanted. Said that the issues are more than structure planning but include infrastructure, parking, etc. ‘It’s a wide range of issues’ but ‘the only practical way’ since it is an ‘ambitious’ document is to ‘allow time to get it right’. Endorsed Lipshutz’s comments regarding the Lobo comments and stated that the latter’s comments were ‘totally inaccurate’ and that he wants to remind Lobo that ‘he did vote to bring the new zones in as well as every other councillor who was here at the time’.

Thought that the action plan was ‘practical’ given the ‘biggest population growth in melbourne’s history’ and ‘we are trying to manage that’. ‘Looking back’ they may have done something ‘different in the past’ but ‘certainly times have changed’ and ‘we are responding to that’. ‘We are trying to address the concerns of the community’. So they are taking on board community concerns and talking with the planning department as to ‘what is achievable’. Repeated that the document is ‘ambitious’ but after ‘tonight will leave us in a better position to plan for our future growth’. Thought the ‘zones have been a very positive step’, Neighbourhood character is also ‘very important’. Council has ‘2 storey 8 metres over 78%’ of the municipality and this has ‘certainly helped’ to preserve neighbourhood character. ‘But can we do more? Yes’ by ‘identifying areas we can improve on’. ‘So it is a continual update’ and he regards it as ‘one of the most important documents’ since he’s ‘been on council’.

MOTION PUT AND CARRIED. MAGEE VOTED AGAINST. ALL OTHERS VOTED FOR.

COMMENT

  • Once again we have confirmation of the illegal processes this council undertakes. No formal resolution was ever tabled or voted on by councillors to introduce, or to even send off a ‘request’ to the Minister on the zones. Thus any ‘vote’ taken was taken in assemblies – a definite ‘no-no’ according to the Local Government Act.
  • On another governance issue – Pilling moved the motion on the interim heights. Since he is ‘chairperson’ of the meeting, he should have stepped down and the deputy mayor taken his place. Plenty of other councils stipulate this in their Local Law meeting procedures. The fact that Glen Eira doesn’t is another example of shonky process and poor governance. Since it is the chair who determines points of order, eligibility of questions, etc., it is inappropriate for that same individual to be moving any motion. But that’s Glen Eira – anything that favours the ruling clique goes!
  • Sounds as if the flavour of the month is the word ‘ambitious’. Perhaps Pilling could inform residents how ‘ambitious’ it is to set a time frame of up to 20 years to implement structure plans for all activity centres and 3 to 4 years for parking precinct plans that have been on the books for the past 10 years?

CONCLUSION

Pilling’s record as a councillor is frankly appalling. Elected on Green credentials he very quickly disowned that party and to all intents and purposes became a Liberal. Nothing wrong with changing allegiances, but not when people voted for him believing he is a Green. Since the party also funded his campaign has that money been returned? We also have it on good authority that some Pilling reps came cap in hand to the Greens seeking Pilling’s re-entry to the Greens and begging for another round of campaign funding! Given his 2 time mayoralty, we would have thought that $190,000+ should buy plenty of election posters and pamphlets! We can only hope that the Greens have learnt their lesson and formally excommunicated their Quisling.

Residents should also remember Pilling’s role in the most contentious issues of recent times and how his vote helped scuttle community aspirations. We refer to:

  • Caulfield Village C60 & Development plans
  • Caulfield Village Cinema
  • Frogmore heritage status
  • Turning more and more of Bailey Reserve into a car park
  • In 2011 Pilling was in favour of a Notice of Motion. In 2016 he voted for public question restrictions that limited transparency and community participation.
  • Casting vote in line with Lipshutz, Hyams, etc. on numerous developments
  • Gagging councillors repeatedly

Here is part of Pilling’s record in voting for permits, many of which he moved or seconded –

1056-1060 DANDENONG ROAD, 8 storeys, 97 units

127-131 Gardenvale Road – 12 units

483-493 GLEN HUNTLY ROAD, ELSTERNWICK – 8 storey, 57 units

687-689 GLEN HUNTLY ROAD, CAULFIELD – 28 units

451-453 SOUTH ROAD BENTLEIGH – 5 storey, 12 units

149-153 NEERIM ROAD & 4 HINTON ROAD, GLEN HUNTLY – 17 double storeys

2 MORTON AVENUE, CARNEGIE – 6 storeys, 40 units

15-19 Gordon Street ELSTERNWICK – 8 storeys, 55 units

730A CENTRE ROAD BENTLEIGH EAST – 5 storeys, 29 units

33-35 Jersey Parade, Carnegie – 4 storey, 28 units

115-125 Poath Road Murrumbeena – 4 storey, 33 units

67-73 Poath Road MURRUMBEENA – 6 and 7 storey, 39 units

144 Hawthorn Road CAULFIELD NORTH – 6 storeys, 40 dwellings

2-4 Penang Street MCKINNON – 3 storey, 23 units (permit was refused by councillors, but Pilling & Sounness voted against refusal)

15-17 Belsize Avenue & 316-320 Neerim Road CARNEGIE – 4 storey, 52 units

22-26 Bent Street BENTLEIGH – 4 storeys, 41 units

29-33 Loranne Street BENTLEIGH – 4 storeys, 42 units

168 Hotham Street ELSTERNWICK – Lipshutz & Pilling wanted 5 storeys and 78 dwellings

339-341 Neerim Road & 19-21 Belsize Avenue CARNEGIE – 4 storeys, 35 units

64-66 Bent Street MCKINNON – 3 and 4 storey, 31 units (again Pilling & Sounness moved to accept)

1240-1248 Glen Huntly Road CARNEGIE – 6 storeys, 117 units (Pilling/Delahunty motion)

DELAHUNTY: stated that Magee has got a ‘special place in my heart’ because ‘in one sentence’ you can find yourself disagreeing with him and then when he gets to the end you go ‘yeah’. Didn’t know whether she could ‘endorse’ all of Magee’s comments especially on structure planning and ‘proper strategic conversations’.  Said that the review is an important strategic document that should help residents ‘shape’ the community. Said that some councillors think that ‘we should be doing what other councils are doing’ like ‘going down the path of structure planning’. So ‘perhaps if these had been done some time ago’ then ‘we would have had the discussion about’ the strategic vision and maybe the same issues with VCAT but ‘with more influence and the greater ability to more strategically manage the outcomes’.  This is ‘what structure planning does’ even though it might ‘still have ambiguities in it when it comes to appeal rights’ that ‘sort of conversation with the public is very important to have’.  

Gave an example of a planning application for East St. Kilda where it is a very ‘small block’ surrounded by 5 and 6 storey buildings ‘all around it’. But at the ‘other end of the municipality’ the same planning rules exist – such as in Bentleigh and when an application comes in ‘you are standing in a quarter acre vegie patch’. ‘It just feels like such a different part of the world’. So in order to ‘properly’ define these neighbourhoods and ‘how they should grow’ and ‘how we manage the rate of change is an incredibly important piece of work’ and ‘it should have been done by council a long time ago’Said that she isn’t ‘having a go’ at others but that ‘we thought we had the right policies in place’ but ‘you always need to check whether you’re doing things in the best manner’. Thought that ‘we were a little left behind’ in this. Said that the Minister ‘is right to point out that we have some inconsistencies’ compared to other councils and that ‘it is right for us to come up with this work plan’. Thought it was proper to set aside ‘time’ and money in order ‘to have this conversation with residents to develop structure plans’

COMMENT

Some slack can admittedly be granted to Delahunty given that she has inherited the decisions of previous councils and was elected in 2012. However, her above comments also deserve some major criticism.

  • Is Delahunty hedging her bets? – ie on the one hand admitting council’s slackness in not achieving anything for years and years, but then on the other hand, excusing this inaction by claiming they thought they had got the policies ‘right’. All one needs to consider is the constant complaints about VCAT and it is obvious that the so called policies were not ‘right’.
  • Delahunty has publicly stated that she ‘lost the argument’ on community consultation on the new zones and that she is glad she lost the argument! In other words, this is condoning the decision to exclude the public. Now we get the motherhood statements of how important it is to have community consultation. Sounds a little like Magee we suggest – inconsistent and opportunistic.
  • Delahunty voted for this draft review, yet there is barely a word about the time lag of the work plan, nor any of the other recommendations. As for ‘setting aside money’ that won’t be until the next budget so more delay. Surely if someone votes for something the least that residents should expect is an insight into the rationale of why, or why not, the recommendations are acceptable?
  • Delahunty has also not been averse to voting for plenty of developments. Here is a list of her voting patterns. Many of these motions to grant permits were moved or seconded by Delahunty –

15-19 VICKERY STREET, BENTLEIGH – 4 storey, 47 units

670-672 CENTRE ROAD & 51 BROWNS ROAD BENTLEIGH EAST – 67 units

10 & 12 Bent Street BENTLEIGH – 35 units

9 & 9A Truganini Road, Carnegie – 20 units

23 Bent Street BENTLEIGH – 34 units

30-32 Ames Avenue CARNEGIE – 12 double storeys

1100 Dandenong Road CARNEGIE – 22 units

337-343 Balaclava Road CAULFIELD NORTH – 33 units

247-251 Neerim Road CARNEGIE – 48 units

143-147 Neerim Road GLEN HUNTLY – 32 units

817-819 Centre Road BENTLEIGH EAST – 26 units

629-631 Glen Huntly Road CAULFIELD – 15 units

1240-1248 Glen Huntly Road CARNEGIE – 6 storeys, 117 units

14-18 Bent Street BENTLEIGH – 55 units

339-341 Neerim Road & 19-21 Belsize Avenue CARNEGIE – 35 units

14-16 Elliott Avenue CARNEGIE – 21 units

495-501 Glen Huntly Road ELSTERNWICK – 7 storeys, 32 units

670-672 Centre Road BENTLEIGH EAST – 5 storeys, 50 units

168 Hotham Street ELSTERNWICK – 4 storeys, 67 units

29-33 Loranne Street BENTLEIGH – 42 units

22-26 Bent Street BENTLEIGH – 41 units

15-17 Belsize Avenue & 316-320 Neerim Road CARNEGIE – 52 units

150 Tucker Road BENTLEIGH – increase of dwellings form 13 to 20

401-407 Neerim Road Carnegie – 5 storey, 57 units

67-73 Poath Road MURRUMBEENA – 6 storeys, 30 units

 

ESAKOFF: stated that others had already brought up what she had wanted to address. Said that structure planning was the ‘first one’ she wanted to talk about. Said that she didn’t ‘know whether they are a good thing or they’re not’. Went on to say that ‘we’ve been advised in the past that unless you go for more they’re not likely to be approved’ and ‘time will tell whether this is in fact the truth or not’. Said she’s ‘been thinking back 13, 14 years before our zones were in place’ and ‘attending meetings that were held to do with the zones’ and in the discussions ‘people were shock, horror’ about 3 storeys ‘in an activity centre’. This ‘had not been seen before’.  15 years down the track and ‘we would probably be very glad that they had a minimum of 5’. ‘Perhaps if we had gone for structure plans that long ago we might have got 5’. ‘We might have been shocked at the thought that it’s five’ but ‘today it’s looking pretty good’. Said that ‘no one can see ahead’ and wished that ‘sometimes we could’. ‘We don’t know what’s around the corner in the years to come and what we will consider acceptable or not’.

Stated that the ‘topics of conversation’ at the forums ‘were pretty consistent’ and people noted structure plans, transition zones. Acknowledged that ‘transition has been an issue since I’ve been on council’ and that she’s ‘always wanted transition to be wider than one block’ and ‘that’s what people want too’. Hoped this could be achieved so it’s a ‘slower transition from one block to another’.

She hoped that ‘we can address’ neighbourhood character since ‘there’s a fair bit of damage done’ so difficult to ‘say in some areas what neighbourhood character is any more’. Hoped that with Neighbourhood Character Overlays this could ‘cover those areas still intact’.

On traffic and parking she thought this could ‘extend further’ than just the borders of the activity centres into residential areas where people are saying they can’t park in their streets anymore. Growing population will impact on this but council ‘has done a lot by way of parking around activity centres’ via refusing parking permits for new developments.

Heritage ‘can do with a review’. ‘No doubt, it’s been a while’. ‘Loss of trees on development sites was also an issue. ‘We have put in place some sorts of barriers to stop moonscaping’ but ‘that doesn’t always work – it doesn’t deter developers overly’.  So ‘whatever’ council decided to do ‘it has to be something that is passed’. ‘If it’s something that is going to stop development altogether it will be stopped in its tracks’ because the State Government ‘is for development’.

Went on about infrastructure and ‘improvements’ and thought this was ‘fair enough and we will see what we can do there’. Open space is also an issue and ‘that’s why we are trying to secure open space in and around activity centres’. However ratecapping ‘has put a little bit of a dampener on that’.

ESD is another issue that ‘we have addressed somewhat and will address further’. Underground parking is another issue and she ‘guesses’ this is about canopy tree coverage on development sites. But ‘underground parking allows for lower heights I believe’ since trying to ‘park at grade you are increasing your height because’ it’s got ‘nothing to do with the reduction of the number of dwellings’.

 

COMMENT

  • God help us!!!!!! Here is a 13 year serving councillor admitting she hasn’t got the foggiest about structure planning! Has she ever asked? What has she been told? Has she ever bothered to read other council’s planning schemes and their numerous structure plans? And what does this say about the ‘advice’ that councillors have been fed from the likes of Newton and Akehurst over the past 13 years? And more importantly, what does it say about the will of councillors and to what extent they have been complicit in a planning agenda that has finally been called out by the Minister as being totally out of kilter with best practice?
  • ‘No one can see ahead’. Surely that is the objective of a good planning scheme – to prepare a vision for a municipality that can stand the test of time. Exactly what is the overall ‘strategic vision’ of Glen Eira, except to create countless opportunities for developers to ruin suburb after suburb?
  • At least Esakoff acknowledges that ‘neighbourhood character’ is now hard to define in many areas. Perhaps if council had preferred character statements years ago, instead of waffly useless phrases like ‘emerging character’ in its planning scheme, many areas would still be ‘intact’? More importantly, is this an admission that all council is intending to do is include a few more streets under Neighbourhood Character Overlays? What is most disappointing about Esakoff’s statements is that residents are provided with literally no idea as to what anything means, nor what council plans to do. Detail is non-existent!
  • Esakoff’s and the other councillors short-sightedness is evidenced by her statements on underground car parking. The issue is far more important than whether or not a few canopy trees can be planted. The issue of underground parking could be calamitous in terms of its impact on the water table and the cumulative impact on constant digging. London research has shown that the more basement car parking allowed in one area, the greater the risk of sink holes – aka Monash last year!
  • Epiphanies keep coming for councillors when less than a year ago, Esakoff was quite happy with the provisions to stop moonscaping and no necessity for a tree register –  ‘the owner of that property should have every right to do what they like’. She has always ‘been on the side of personal rights’ and she doesn’t want people to be told ‘what they can and can’t have’ in terms of trees in their gardens. That’s their ‘domain’ and it’s ‘called private open space – private’. ‘To be personal and to accuse people of inconsistency I think is a disgrace’. Said that people can argue for protecting street trees and planting more trees, but on people’s own property they should decide. Went on to ‘red tape and the costs’ is ‘another layer that the community is over’. Said that the ‘community’ doesn’t ‘want any more red tape’ or costs in choosing ‘what to do with their own private space’. (24/3/2015)
  • and there are good protections currently existing via what council already has to deal with Mentioned ResCode and how this ‘removes the advantage that developers gain’. Permits also come with conditions that trees can’t be removed but this also has a ‘down side’ because years later there’s the request for a change in condition so these trees which are now ‘causing damage’ can be removed. There have to be avenues of appeal with the tree register because that would make it ‘fair’ and to remove ‘those rights of appeal would not be a fair process’. Said that ‘my position remains unchanged’ and that she is against ‘tree control in Glen Eira’. (16/10/2013)
  • Existing mechanisms include town planning, so that if there is a significant tree then town planning conditions are ‘put in place to protect them’. There are also ‘large penalties’ for ‘breach of those conditions’. Other safeguards are landscape plans, 4 metre setbacks and open space requirements which means that more trees can be planted. ‘There are enough hoops to jump through’ without adding to them. (14/10/2013)

LOBO:  was happy that Magee ‘to some extent’ agreed that ‘Glen Eira has to progress’. Stated that ‘all this hooha could have been avoided’ if Akehurst hadn’t taken ‘a shortcut’ and ‘asked us to take the zones’ to the government. ‘We accepted his recommendation and that was a rude awakening of our residents’. Result is that ‘we’ve now come back to the drawing board’ and they ‘could have come back early’ and ‘not have to wait for the Minister to tell us what to do’. He believes that ‘openness, transparency and accountability are the cornerstones of democractic system, free and fairness are the pre-requisites’.

LIPSHUTZ: thought that Akehurst ‘presided over a planning department that was second to none’. Said that council was ‘faced with a situation where we had policies that were not being looked at’ by VCAT. The Government then changed things and said ‘rather than having policies we are going to have zones’ and ‘that meant that VCAT had to adhere to the law’. Therefore ‘to criticise Mr Akehurst – I reject that completely’. Said that all councils are in a similar situation and Glen Eira ‘was the first council and we got the best deal possible, in fact the best deal than any other council’  because ‘we were the first’. He ‘rejects’ and thinks it is ‘dishonourable’ what was said about Akehurst.

Admitted that ‘I have never been a great fan of structure plans’. ‘They are very blunt instruments’. Thought the ‘aims’ of structure plans for activity centres was ‘a good thing I guess’ and that ‘they are long term arrangements’. But ‘things do change’. However, ‘I don’t see any alternative but to go ahead and do it’ because the ‘Minister has come along and said to us that that’s what they really want’. ‘We don’t have mandatory height limits’ and they are ‘finding’ that in Bentleigh and Carnegie 7, 8, or 9 storeys are going up ‘which are simply inappropriate and we can do nothing about it’ because all VCAT does is ‘we have to look at your policies’ but ‘don’t have to follow them’. They also ‘rely on their own precedent’ when they previously grant a 6 storey nearby and ‘ignoring what council and residents want’. So if council is to get a height limit and ‘we have to go through the structure plan process then that is what we are going to do’. ‘I don’t like it. I don’t think it is a very good way of going ahead’ but ‘we have no alternative’ to doing what the minister wants. The ‘real issue’ is that ‘rather than doing structure plans’, ‘rather than doing these half-baked planning review – I’m not saying this one is’, the government ‘needs to look at planning overall’.  They have to recognise ‘that we as residents know best what we want for our cities’ and that ‘we as councillors, representatives of our residents, have more say’ than the government.

COMMENT

  • Quite amazing that since we’ve published the Minister’s letter, there is (belatedly) the admission that council has been ORDERED by the Minister to do some work following years of doing bugger all and handing the municipality over to developers.
  • For a lawyer, and supposedly an intelligent individual, Lipshutz’s logic is woeful. But that’s what happens when you try to defend the indefensible and to save your own neck! First off: structure plans are not set in concrete. Like any other planning mechanisms they can be changed via amendments. All that is required is for the planning department to do some fair dinkum analysis, provide a feasible argument for a change, and produce the amendment. Obviously beyond this council’s will or capacity! Secondly, the claim that ‘we can do nothing about’ what’s been happening with heights is a blatant lie! During the past 13 years Council has had ample opportunity to introduce height limits; to introduce Urban Design Frameworks; to introduce Structure Plans; to introduce Design and Development Overlays. VCAT has been 100% correct in stating time and again that none of these tools exist in the planning scheme and therefore developers are within their rights to apply for what they want. It has nothing on earth to do with VCAT changing its interpretations and everything to do with Council’s refusal to implement any amendment which will impede developers and provide more stringent safeguards to the community. That is the bottom line and these councillors have all been complicit in allowing this state of affairs to continue unabated.
  • Being ‘first’ means nothing when other councils did their homework and achieved far better results for their communities through well prepared zones that were not ‘one size fits all’ – plus schedules that provided greater protections. And we do not need to remind residents that NO OTHER COUNCIL IN THE STATE, proceeded in the secret manner that Glen Eira did with councillors (undoubtedly Lipshutz, Hyams, Esakoff, Pilling, Delahunty and probably Sounness) deciding (illegally) behind closed doors that residents were not worthy of having a say!
  • As with our previous post on Hyams, Lipshutz can accept a large part of the responsibility for the erosion of resident rights and the appalling governance and internal divisions that have characterised this council for well over a decade. If he does stand again, and there is a very strong rumour that he won’t, then like the others, we urge residents to vote this ‘bastard’ out!

HYAMS: started off with ‘there is rapid growth all over Melbourne’ and other councils have had this for a long time and it is now hitting Glen Eira. The question is ‘are we equipped to protect our neighbourhoods?’ It ‘would appear not’ ‘given VCAT’s changing interpretation’. Claimed that policies were ‘previously sufficient, now not so much’. Council does ‘need to do something about it’ and the report does this. Said that at the last review ‘people were a lot less ambitious about what they wanted from us’ such as height limits, which council has now got. People also wanted ‘transition zones’ which is also achieved and ‘better protection of neighbourhood character’ and that’s been gained via the Neighbourhood Character Overlays. ‘So we basically carried out what was wanted in the previous review’ and ‘this is far more ambitious’ and ‘most of what residents have asked us for is represented in this plan’.

Admitted that some councillors, like Magee, ‘want the zones reviewed’. He believes that ‘it would be nice to do that’ but ‘it could be a double-edged sword’ and end up with things a lot worse.  The ‘more important point’ is that the Government is ‘in the process of reviewing’ the zones ‘so there is no point in us doing it’ because they would say like they did with Moreland that the latter’s proposed Better Apartment Guide wasn’t going to be ‘taken on’ because ‘we’re doing a Better Apartment Guide of our own’. So if council ‘was to do all the work on a review of our zones’ plus all the necessary strategic justification to go along with this, the government could then say why ‘are you wasting your time’ since we (the government) are already doing the review. ‘With a bit of luck’ the government review will achieve a ‘better outcome’.

With the zones, ‘nothing can be built now that couldn’t be built before’ but other things can’t be ‘built now because of the mandatory height limits’. The apartment boom did coincide with the introduction of the zones, especially in Bentleigh, and this isn’t ‘because of the zones’ since other areas like Carnegie ‘were copping’ growth ‘before the zones’. ‘There would be those who continue to misrepresent our zones for political purposes’.

Council ‘isn’t proposing to change the zones’ but to ‘strengthen the protection within each of the zones’ and this is the ‘neighbourhood character work’.  This, together with the structure plans, is the most important aspect of the workplan. This is important for the activity centes and the commercial zones and ‘whilst our policies haven’t changed but the interpretation of them has’ so both the government and VCAT are ‘now looking for something more explicit’ in place to give the protection ‘that we’ve achieved, or hoped to achieve in the past’.

On structure plans council had been told that unless you have ‘mandatory height limits in structure plans’ it is ‘hard to get mandatory height limits in shopping strips’ and these were interpreted as a minimum ‘height limit’ so developers went for higher. So now VCAT is ‘saying we don’t have height limits specified’ so we ‘now do need height limits even if they are not mandatory’.

Council is concentrating on Carnegie and Bentleigh because these are the areas that ‘residents said are the most important’ and ‘appreciates’ Pilling adding the clause about the interim height limits to the motion.  Said that there was a ‘gap identified in our heritage policy’ so this is the ‘first thing we will do’.

‘Unfortunately’ ‘everything we are planning to do does take time’. Council ‘would like to get’ these things ‘through quickly but the fact is that ‘we need planning scheme amendments’, and ‘you need to have done the research to present the government with truth’ etc and this could take up to 18 months. Claimed that the ‘government will never allow us to put at risk development’ and that’s what ‘all this is about’, ‘unless we make a very strong case based on the truth’.

On Magee’s thinking of what council should do, these are ‘encapsulated’ in the work plan and ‘we can’t really do them in a way except like this’. Admitted that it’s not something ‘that everyone would like’ but it’s putting one step forward and council wants to achieve 3 structure plans in 4 years. Saw this ‘as the best way forward’ and council would do ‘everything we can to expedite’ this and that involved ‘making budgetary decision next year’.

COMMENT

Like a dog with a bone, Hyams continues to stick to the glib, unsubstantiated claims that are designed to camouflage the incompetence of this council and his role as a ten year councillor.

We reiterate what we have previously stated –

  • VCAT has not changed its position. Glen Eira planning policies have always been deficient in terms of protecting our suburbs, especially housing diversity precincts. See the following post for VCAT decisions that precede the introduction of the zones: https://gleneira.wordpress.com/2016/07/22/lipshutz-versus-hyams/
  • Hyams like Magee, contradicts the report which states that council has reviewed the zones. Either the report is a work of fiction or both Magee and Hyams have either not read it, or ‘truth’ is not a priority component of their grandstanding.
  • Glen Eira has transition ‘buffers’ not ‘transition zones’ that would stand up to any real scrutiny. Zoning one property as GRZ2 hardly constitutes a ‘transition zone’. Further, Hyams claims of neighbourhood character protection is minimalist covering less than 2.5% of properties – and that’s if one can believe council’s figures!
  • How much longer will council use the excuse for doing nothing because the state government is looking at the issue or it should be the role of state legislation rather than local policies? That hasn’t stopped Moreland and other sympathetic councils from pursuing a Better Design Guideline for their municipalities. Nor has it stopped other councils from introducing Environmental and Water Sustainable policies years ago. Glen Eira’s persistent refusal to do anything is unforgiveable and residents are paying the price.
  • Council in its report admits that structure planning may necessitate the hiring of outside consultants and that this will be expensive. Yet, Hyams reveals that no money has been set aside in the current budget and it won’t be until next year’s budget. Thus, either we get a half baked structure plan devised by the current crop of Council’s planning ‘professionals’, or further delay is written into the workplan until funding is available.
  • Hyams continually hangs his hat on ‘mandatory height limits’ as the be all and end all. We remind readers of his contradictions when pre-zone he stated: that a problem was that if you set height limits then ‘people will build up to that height and you can’t stop them’ but if you don’t have height limits and let each application be ‘judged on its merits’ then you could get ‘better outcomes’. (from our post of 6/2/2013 – ie on application for Glen Huntly Road – 6 storeys and 45 dwellings which got a permit from council.)

Then post zones we get this diametrically opposed statement –

‘The new zones are limiting development’ because of the height limits and that ‘anyone who tells you otherwise doesn’t know what they are talking about’ or ‘is deliberately seeking to mislead you’.(25/9/2014)

  • Hyams’ record on voting in favour of major developments is akin to Magee’s. We won’t repeat by providing a list.
  • Finally, residents need to consider how much this individual has contributed to the poor governance within this council and how much this has subsequently cost ratepayers. We refer of course to the foul mouthed abuse of residents and Lobo and the bonanza this has created for lawyers. We also remind readers that it is primarily he and Lipshutz who have been the force behind: no notice of motion; no tree register; changing public question formats; and countless machinations over the continued reappointment of Newton. Nor does the community’s view appear to matter. When over 1000 people requested a Heritage protection overlay for Frogmore, it was Hyams, Lipshutz, and Pilling who denied residents the right to provide their evidence before a planning panel. It was also this unholy alliance which granted the MRC rights to their development via a fabricated ‘special committee’ arrangement. Countless questions of ‘conflict of interest’ also appear to have been ignored by these individuals. Thus, in our view, Hyams is definitely one of those ‘bastards’ who must be voted out!

 

Here’s what Magee said Tuesday night –

MAGEE: said he wanted to ‘show great respect’ to all those residents who put in submissions and showed up to the meetings. Claimed he was ‘very enthusiastic’ at the start about the review being a ‘great opportunity’ but ‘the more I read the report the more disappointed I became’. Although ‘I’ve never been a fan’ of structure planning he does ‘understand’ that this is a ’significant piece of work that planning departments do’. The time for it to be developed and its vision for 10 or 20 years is too long because he sees his Tucker ward area being ‘destroyed’ each day. So he is ‘so concerned and worried’ that ‘by the time we’ve done the structure plan it will be too late’. Claimed that ‘we know right now’ what is needed.

He had hoped to see the ‘neighbourhood character’ retained as with the 2013 Neighbourhood Character Overlays where ‘a whole host of properties’ were added to the list. Felt that ‘we should be concentrating more on Neighbourhood Character Overlays’ and Design and Development Overlays (DDO) rather than structure planning and controls which would ‘make VCAT actually apply those controls’ instead of merely ‘considering them’. Stated that ‘the minister has asked us to do this’ but our letter to him of last year asking of him ‘one single little thing’ – to change the law regarding VCAT ‘which would give us our protection’. Council wanted legislation so that ‘VCAT had to apply our planning scheme’. If this was done then 500 apartments ‘approved by VCAT’ wouldn’t have got through. So ‘that could have been one interim protection that could have been put in last year’.

With growing population of 1600 every year in Glen Eira and by 2031 a population of 170,000. ‘We can only put them up’ since we can’t spread out. The issue is then density and the pressure this is putting on commercial zones. ‘If we can’t have mandatory height limits as soon as possible’ then this issue ‘will drag’ on for the next 10 years. Council hasn’t ‘even addressed what’s going to happen to Virginia Park’ and the ‘railway corridors’. ‘We haven’t really addressed the transition’ zone issue especially in Bentleigh because this is ‘one of the only ones’ where commercial directly abuts Neighbourhood Residential. This means going from ‘no height limit at all to a two storey height limit’. Said that the planning scheme ‘talks about transition’ from 5, to 4, to 3, to 2 and ‘we haven’t got that’.

He was very ‘excited’ when he got the report and understands that structure plans can be ‘important’ because they allow ‘controls’ and with controls you can ‘have some meat’ that ‘VCAT then has to apply’. However, what VCAT applies is ResCode and ‘VCAT doesn’t apply the Glen Eira planning scheme’.  Didn’t think that people really understand the planning scheme which is ‘something that was put together over many, many years with the involvement of the Glen Eira community’. ‘The Glen Eira community said what the planning scheme should be’ and this was approved by the minister ‘yet VCAT have the right to totally ignore that’. VCAT apply precedent (ie existence of a 6 storey building already there) but it was VCAT who gave the permit and not council. He was ‘hoping to see these DDO’s and Neighbourhood Character Overlays’ to ‘give us the protection we desperately need’. Structure plans will in ‘four years time tell us what we know today’.

 ‘A great disappointment is that we are not reviewing those zones’. Claimed he had ‘thought about this for a long time’ even though he was  ‘one of those who didn’t want the zones reviewed’ because ‘the risk’ of doing this is ‘that they could be bigger’ (ie the growth zones) and ‘neighbourhood residential could shrink’. Now however he thinks that ‘it’s worth a crack’. Thinks that the minister is ‘only doing this because of the pressure that’s on the minister’ to be doing this. He’s not picking on Glen Eira, but it’s part of his ‘normal structure’ calling on Glen Eira to ‘review’. ‘To not review the zones is a missed opportunity’. ‘We need interim protection right now’. ‘When you can’t drive in or out of your driveway, that is bad planning’. ‘When you walk into your back yard and you see 11 or 12 balconies, that’s bad planning’. ‘Five years of having our planning scheme ignored by VCAT’ means that there will probably be 2000 minimum approved by VCAT and this doesn’t include Virginia Park. Finished off by saying that he is ‘incredibly disappointed that we haven’t seized the opportunity’.

COMMENT

Upcoming elections obviously do very funny things to councillors. They not only play to the gallery, but all logic, consistency, and we might add, integrity in presenting the truth, flies out the window. Magee’s comments presented above illustrate this fully. Here’s why!

  • Over the years we have presented countless VCAT decisions that keep telling council to get their act together. VCAT has also made it clear time and time again how little ‘guidance’ on heights, on urban design, on anything, is present in the planning scheme.This has got nothing to do with VCAT and everything to do with Council and its negligence over a 13 year period. It is surely time that council stops using VCAT as a scapegoat for all the ills of planning in Glen Eira.
  • Magee should also get his facts right prior to opening his mouth and grandstanding for public consumption. His comments reveal either a total ignorance or the deliberate attempt to deceive and mislead. His statement that – VCAT applies … ResCode and ‘VCAT doesn’t apply the Glen Eira planning scheme’ is literally unbelievable. Firstly, ResCode is the most minimalist set of figures available. They are nothing more than Clayton’s ‘standards’ – often ignored by VCAT and council itself. But the most damning aspect of this statement is that the Glen Eira Planning Scheme itself uses ResCode when it could have had far more stringent requirements via its schedules to the zones. It was council who decided that GRZ1 AND RGZ should not attempt to provide greater protection via the schedules as other councils have achieved. Thus, VCAT can only apply what is in the planning scheme. If there is nothing there, or only the minimalist ResCode standards, then the developer is provided with all the advantages. That, in our view, has been the council agenda for ages!
  • ‘The Glen Eira community said what the planning scheme should be’. What absolute bunkum given that the zones were introduced in secret and without any public consultation and he was in favour of no consultation.
  • At least there is the admission that council hasn’t got ‘transition zones’ or parking policies and that this is ‘bad planning’. Of course it is abdominal planning, especially since these issues were known way back in 2003 (ie the community plan) and have been brought up time and time again by residents. Magee has been on council since 2008. What has he done about this ‘bad planning’? What pressure has he exerted to ensure that these problems are dealt with? What else has he done except to play the populist card several months out from an election? And if he is so concerned about the destruction of neighbourhood character in Tucker Ward and especially in Bentleigh, then why has he voted to grant a permit for all of the following applications in Bentleigh.
  • 15-19 Vickery Street, Bentleigh – 4 storey, 47 units
  • 11 – 13 Bent Street BENTLEIGH – 4 storey, 34 units
  • 37-39 NICHOLSON STREET BENTLEIGH – part 3 and 4 storey, 10 units
  • 670-672 CENTRE ROAD & 51 BROWNS ROAD BENTLEIGH EAST – 3 & 5 storey, 67 units
  • 23 Bent Street BENTLEIGH – 4 storey, 34 units
  • 817-819 Centre Road BENTLEIGH EAST – 3 storey, 26 units
  • 27 and 29 Jasper Road BENTLEIGH – 3 storey, 25 units
  • 64-66 Bent Street MCKINNON – part 3 and part 4 storey, 31 units
  • 14-18 Bent Street BENTLEIGH – 4 storeys, 55 units
  • 29-33 Loranne Street BENTLEIGH – 4 storeys, 42 units
  • 22-26 Bent Street BENTLEIGH – 4 storeys, 41 units
  • 24-26 Mavho Street BENTLEIGH – 4 storey, 28 units
  • The best is the sudden epiphany that the zones should have been reviewed. Perhaps Magee has not read the Planning Scheme Report since it states on page 108 – Glen Eira has completed its review of the new residential zones. Really? When? Why isn’t this ‘review’ public? What were the conclusions?  We also wonder what Magee means when he states that he has thought about this for a ‘long time’. Does this mean a week, a month, a year? If so, then residents need to be reminded of his comments which follow. The dates are from our postings. Incredible that as recently as February Magee could say that ‘we have a very, very good planning scheme’. Clearly a man who is consistent in his inconsistency!

‘I think the outcome for Glen Eira is superb’ (13/8/2013)

Said that 97% of the municipality has got height limits and 3% commercial with no height limits. Putting height limits on commercial areas has to be done through an overlay, and then community consultation, ‘permission from the minister’, and ‘through a long and detailed process’. ‘If council decides at some point in the future’ to do this, then he would ‘welcome that’ but to do ‘that we would need legal opinion, planning opinion’ and the Minister’s approval. There are some other things that might be done with the commercial zones but he is ‘very, very happy that’ the zones ‘cover 97% of our municipality’. This ‘in conjunction with our planning scheme’ is what ‘makes it work’. (25/11/2015)

‘We can sit up here and refuse it because we don’t like it’ but that would be ‘stupid’ since they know that it ‘already complies’ with ResCode and the planning scheme which was ‘put together with great community consultation with our residents’ who together with ‘council decided what can be built in what streets’ (30/6/2016)

‘I believe we have a very, very good planning scheme’. Last year ‘VCAT approved 582 apartments’ that had been refused by council and that was because ‘it wasn’t consistent with our planning scheme’. ‘Our planning scheme is what our residents said they wanted’. Council ‘went to the community’ and asked ‘Do you approve?’ and residents said ‘yes’. The minister then approved but VCAT ‘only have to consider it’. So when council consider buildings of 9 or 2 storeys ‘we look at residential building codes’, and the planning scheme. Councillors ‘sometimes’ give a permit to ‘buildings we don’t like’ mainly because ‘there are no grounds for refusal’. ‘It is wrong to say we want this and then to vote for something different’. Council and community has ‘asked’ for this planning scheme and that is ‘what is so disappointing about VCAT’ (4/2/2016)

Claimed that if council wanted VCAT to do anything then ‘it would have to be in the form of an overlay’. Overlays need a panel assessment and they could end up saying that ‘Carnegie is quite suitable for 13 storeys’ and Bentleigh ‘quite suitable for 6’. Council would then ‘have to argue against that’, then the Minister would ‘have information’ saying the opposite. S0 ‘there is a risk in asking for something’ that ‘you don’t get what you want’.(25/11/2015)

MAGEE: only the Minister ‘can do anything’ about the zones. When in opposition, Labor was ‘very clear’ that they were going ‘to review zones’ but haven’t done ‘anything about it so far’. He ‘believes’ that ‘we’ve got a very good system’ . In 2009/10 there was a ‘public review’ of the planning scheme and three things emerged that residents wanted – height limits, buffer zones, and ‘less discretion at VCAT’. ‘That’s exactly what the zones are doing’. Regardless of council ‘advocating for this change or that change’ or whether ‘we want a review the minister at any time can review’. Said that MPs are asking the minister to review zones in their electorates. Said that council was’ criticised at one point for not consulting’ but he thought ‘we very much did’ and now to ‘do a review of our consulting’ they would be ‘accused of doing the very same thing’. Glen Eira’s ‘system puts development’ where he thinks ‘it should be’ – in activity centres and along transport routes. Said that there are 3 Residential Growth Zones and the rest of the residential zones are in ‘shopping strips’. Thought that Glen Eira ‘is very, very lucky to have what it has’. If the minister ‘wants to tinker with that and reduce that’ then no council would have room for residential growth zones. If councils all got what they wanted it would all be neighbourhood residential zones. This would be ‘totally inappropriate and disrespectful’ to the 1000 people a year who come to live in Glen Eira. They have to be ‘accommodated somehow’ and currently council has got a ‘system that I certainly won’t be voting to change’ until the minister tells them ‘what that change will look like’. Was worried that if council ‘opened this up’ that the growth zones would increase and ‘neighbourhood zones would decrease’. (30/4/2015)

Apart from commercial zones, there is now a ‘sense of security’ for developers because they know what they can do and get a loan easier. Developers can therefore plan better. Said that the 4 storey buildings around tram lines is only 2.2% ‘of our city’ and ‘you might actually struggle to find a block big enough’ to build 4 storeys because of ‘setbacks’ on top floor. So a lot of these could ‘end up being 3 storeys’. Said it was a ‘really good outcome for the residents of Glen Eira’…..Congratulated officers on ‘getting this through’ and didn’t think it ‘was a surprise because that’s the sort of work we do here’…’we are very good at what we do’. In the future council can say ‘no, it’s wrong’ and ‘go away’ to developers because they haven’t got it right. Also have to thank the state government in ‘being proactive and helping us get this in place’. ‘I think the outcome for Glen Eira is superb’30/12/2014)

CONCLUSION

Not much needs to be said. We will merely ask this simple question – can anything that comes out of these councillors’ mouths be believed? Think of this when you vote!

We will provide a full report on the ‘debate’ surrounding the Planning Scheme Review in the next day or so. In the meantime residents should take note of the resolution which was passed by all councillors except Magee (and his mental gymnastics are astounding!)

Pilling moved to accept the Planning Scheme Review Report as recommended but with the addition that council ask the Minister to introduce ‘interim height controls’ for the Activity Centres of Bentleigh and Carnegie. This was seconded by  Lipshutz.

COMMENT – residents should note: (1) Elsternwick is omitted, and (2) this is NOT A REQUEST FOR INTERIM MANDATORY HEIGHT LIMITS, BUT FOR PREFERRED HEIGHT LIMITS! Quite astonishing given that the Minister has power to impose a mandatory interim control. Further, residents are again not privy to what council will be requesting from the Minister since this will be done under Section 20(4) of the Planning and Environment Act, meaning that there will be NO PUBLIC CONSULTATION WHATSOEVER! We believe that this is a neat ploy to once again sidestep the community and to have the Minister as a ready scapegoat! If council was really concerned about heights in its activity centres then it would have requested that all activity centres be included and that the height limits be mandatory. Once again, smoke and mirrors is the modus operandi of Glen Eira City Council and its councillors!

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